Almost three years ago I was severly depressed and had considered killing myself. However, before I could actually realize my thoughts, about 3 or 4 people contacted me through msn messenger, I am not sure how they got my email adress, I don't recall adding them. Somehow, they knew I was going to kill myself, they told me they couldn't let that happen and they practically persuaded me out of it. They never talked to me after that. They said they were from some sort of "organization" or something of the likes. They explained that it was very important that I do not kill myself. Now, NO ONE, knew I was depressed let alone thinking about killing myself. How would you explain this? I am thinking it must of been direct communication from the Universe. Or could my spirit guides have manifested in a physical way of communication so I could receive the messege? At the time I was an athiest and had blocks set up preventing me from being my highest self. Thoughts?
Bl4, have you been reading any of my long discussion with Riesay? You should take a look at the last couple of pages in the thread if you haven't. She and I have apparently had the same person as a spirit guide for the last seven years or so, unbeknownst to each other until now, and I knew that spirit as a living, breathing person who was also in my mind. People like that are all over the place, and they have spiritual jobs to do, and they know when action is needed for any particular person or event. But your experience is an unusually dramatic example of this.
Yes, but I am well kept, not many people are able to get inside of me, let alone read me from the surface. I never acted depressed, and I never acted suicidal or gave hints.
Hm, I haven't really payed attention to your thread, just glanced over it a bit. Seems very interesting though. I actually met someone who was in contact with their spirit guides and when we met, I guess my guides connected with hers. My guides ending up talking to me through her guides, acknowledging their presence. Actually, here's what they told me: "Being above the gatekeeper means you have risen to the challenge. (my guides are answering this one) and have accepted your role in the destiny of mankind upon Planet Earth. the Earth is running out of time before it's energy raises to a much higher level. Those left behind, having not completed critical karma will be faced with seemingly unsurmountable lessons to catch up. It is vital that the planet moves, like a wave together so that the transition is complete. Take Lara's suggestion to read this book "The Only Planet of Choice". It is essential reading for you now as it is written by 12 beings similar to ourselves and your guides. Do you force your growth, for this will place too much stress upon your physical body. Your energy must increase collectively and this is only possible with total understanding and intergration of the information. It is very important to have inherent understanding of this information and knowledge for its appliance at a future date. We have no timeframe. The future is the future with no specified date." Why can't they just communicate with me directly
Well it contains a lot of examples of Riesay's experiences and my experiences with spirit guides. If you want to know something about that, it might give you some ideas. That's one way to do it... Maybe they've tried. If they did, I'm not sure you'd notice.
Maybe, I have a hard enough time trying to differentiate between my intellect and intuition. I really have a hard time believing myself, always second guessing.
did you have this particular trouble as an atheist ? probably . you say depressed . you imply repressed ... mmm , would that mean isolated? alienated? programmed? do you re-program or de-program ... the latter is ultimately the path to a related wholeness . or never mind .
Exactly, Tikoo--de-program. And exactly, Bl4ck3n3D, as well--the difference between intellect and intuition. And intuition is much subtler. I'm not sure what to tell you about that. My spirit guides--who, please remember, are living people I worked with--took me to school to increase my awareness of the subtler impressions. First they had to get my attention--which they did by external means--commenting out loud on my unspoken thoughts. Then they made it impossible to talk to them out loud, so I became obsessed with finding them in my mind--this is how I learned telepathy. Then they slapped me around emotionally with more and more subtle methods, until I became very sensitive to any nuances. Basically they put me through various mixtures of heaven and hell, Bl4. Is this your path? I don't know. I do know that it's a hell of a good way to become sensitized to intuitive impressions. It also hurts like hell. But you know the saying--no pain, no gain.
Okay, I'm going to go a different way and suggest something a little different. I've actually had an experience similar, and one of my former lovers also had an experience. From what I believe, these were angels. Now, I'm not huge on the whole winged figures on white robes and all that, but nonetheless, I know that when you are in a very dark place, and nobody else is getting through, angels can communicate in mortal form. My angel was a sweet lady with Bell's Palsy who sold me my first tarot deck and she was the first person (a complete stranger) I talked to about the death of my mother and actually felt good coming away from the conversation. I talked to her for about a half hour, and then I left. The next time I stopped in she wasn't there. The woman said the place had been closed due to her illness for weeks and she was getting ready to close it. Nobody had worked there. Not long after, the place was shut down. My tarot cards were my first spiritual tool that opened a whole new world for me and helped me understand myself better. And she helped me feel like life could go on after my mother passed on. It was interesting. Something I'll never forget. Atheist or not, we all have somebody watching over us.
Oh, my lover's scenario was a bit different. His had to do with being picked on at school, and someone comforting him, though he never knew who it was, never saw them, by telling him to hang in there. And that made him feel so amazingly optimistic he never forgot it.
Excellent points des10e--and not necessarily a totally different path from the previous discussion--I started out calling my spirit guides "angels"--though they tended to function mostly as teachers, and very tough teachers at that, they often gave me comfort too--sometimes comfort I could see and hear, but often comfort that I only felt, or "saw" or "heard" in my mind. And it may be that Bl4ck3n3D needs someone more like that, at least some of the time. But again, my "angels" had to get my attention in the external world, as human beings, before they could divert my attention to the spiritual world. That may be something Bl4ck3n3D needs also. Or maybe not...but it's good that you pointed out these experiences aren't necessarily hellish, like so many of mine have been. They can be truly wonderful sometimes.
You're right Zeng, I would like someone who could comfort me. I know I take on alot of other people's problems and seem to always be helping others. There's only so much I can do for myself, and especially right now I'm in need of support.
I have two spirit guides (not to be confused with my angel experience because these are two people who usually communicate with me through dreams, telepathy, my tarot cards, or through clairaudience. They also show up during meditations and give me marvelous information.) One is a man, and one is a woman. The woman is vocal, but I've never seen her. She gives me most of my information through clairaudience and telepathy. She is soft-spoken, gentle, and on a lower vibration level than the man who I feel is her "supervisor". He is firm. When he gives an answer, it's loud and clear. His answer always overrides her's. He has only shown himself to me in dreams. He's musically inclined. And I don't know that I've ever herad his voice aloud. He only shows up when things are important. I think that I need this balance they provice. I need the nurturer/softy and the authority/firm person. I think we all get what we need, or close to that.
Chin up, me bucko. There have been untold countless nights that I've lain in bed sweating blood, trying to calm my racing heart and maybe get a few hours of sleep, and countless others that I've thought I surely couldn't go on. I know, Bl4ck3n3D, I truly do... But even when you think you can't, you can. And it will get better--I promise.
