Why is Christianity hateful and full of fear?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by XBloodyNailPolishX, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    First off, I am not Atheist but agnostic. I am bisexual. I have great respect for religion, but find christianity so full of hate and fear.
    Why is it wrong for two people to love each other, if they're the same sex? So what? There's nothing negative about it. They're not hurting anyone; they're loving one another. Just because "God" said so? So what? Why blindly listen and obey when you can think for yourself?
    Also, "Thou Shall Not Suffer a Witch to Live"? Why not? Why kill anyone? Why hurt anyone?
    So many things are a "sin" in the bible when really there's nothing wrong with them outside of the fact that "God" says they aren't right. So what?
     
  2. Mrs.Krinkle

    Mrs.Krinkle Banned

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    Most christians are brainwashed idiots, who are stubborn and think theyre always right. Thats just what theyve been brainwashed into believing.
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    It's a defense mechanism. To prevent a challenge against a flawed system.

    When a person is insecure about themselves, they can become hateful and fearful to keep people at arm's length. Same with beliefs and believers.

    Christianity has no spiritual leadership. Not really. They dedicate their lives to endless dissection of a book rather than following the simple instructions of the master. They fail to see the swelling ranks of modern day Christs who walk among them.

    They are the last in line. And just as their own dogma tells them, "The first will be last", but they can't see that.


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  4. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    im sorry but i found that funny.
     
  5. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    what I meant is I'm agnostic, and bisexual. As in, I may not be an atheist, but I don't follow religious law.
     
  6. couch_monster

    couch_monster Member

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    It seems to me that christians are also strongly against thinking for yourself; I guess they think it is better to blindly follow whatever gibberish their preacher/parents/whoever spout for fear of going to "hell".....
     
  7. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    My comment wasn't in relation to wether or not you followed a particular faith but that it sounded as if your sexuality had some bearing on your urge to find 'God' which not only do i find humurous but also curious, my assumption would be that you yourself have some assumptions about what it is to find 'God'.
     
  8. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    sorry, mistype. I meant to say, I am not an athiest but agnostic, and bisexual.
     
  9. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Ok if you're sure.
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    It's sad to see that the Christian religious right has sold all of you on the notion that it is the prototype for Christianity. What you've written makes not sense when applied to "mainline" Protestant Churches or Progressive Christians.
     
  11. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    but in the end, ALL christianity goes back to the bible, which says these things are "bad".
     
  12. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    If "these things" refers to homosexuality, that's not true. Some Christian churches accept homosexuals, and the Episcopalians in the United Sstates even have a gay bishop (not without controversy). I don't think most liberal Christians consider witchcraft to be a problem either.
     
  13. Hryhorii

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    And the Bible isn't without error, as some would have you believe.. It is a literary text that should be read with literary criticism. Most of the stuff written in it was written for a purpose at a time, for the time. They were not intending to write capital S scripture when the NT was being written...

    Lev has a lot of stuff in it, none of which is followed now by Christians, doesn't that tell you something about their anti-homosexual arguments? Also in 1 Corinth 6:9-10, some translations refer to homosexual acts (one actually singles out in a footnote that it is catamites-the younger partner in roman man-boy love), while others such as the 21KJV doesn't say homosexuals. The Message doesn't either, but then again it is The Message. http://www.dtl.org/ethics/article/homosexuals.htm An interesting examination of the passage. It concludes that Paul refers to both the parties, the receiver and deliverer of male-male homo-eroticism, but the act itself. This is where the Roman Catholic opinion that the thoughts and attraction to the other sex is okay, but not the action. But again, this is in a occasional letter. From other things listed in Paul's letters to corinth, we can see that the people there wre taking his idea of "free in the spirit" a little too far (one guy was sleeping with his father's wife, which could mean his birth or step mother), and a lot of what the letter is is Paul tightening up on his leash on these congregations. But we also see Paul flip flopping on the issue of women as well. Is it possible that 1 Corinth 6:9-10 is a later addition? I dunno, there is other evidence that in the authentic Pauline letters people in the 2nd C. have edited them..

    So take from this what you will, but please don't paint all Christians as full of hate and fear. I know many who don't care if someone is gay or not or what they do in their bedrooms.

    PS-God doesn't say anything in the bible, people say what they want god to say...
     
  14. Hryhorii

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    Digression: This issue actually caused some Anglicans in my hometown to found an Orthodox church...
     
  15. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    People like feeling self-righteous. Hell, most of the people on this board are at least guilty of that little sin (myself included). We want to feel superior, special, holy.

    Now, for most breeders out there, the commandment of not being gay is a pretty damn easy one to follow. it makes them feel good that they are pleasing their god, and following it's commandments. now, they completly ignore the six-hundred some other commandments, and the whole damn meaning of the new testament, but they are able to feel self-righteous because they aren't out sodomizing eachother.

    this blanket of righteousness allows them to then go be complete assholes (another thing most people enjoy, and are guilty of from time to time ((myself included))), because they are able to behave badly, but for a good (in their mind) purpose.

    As for witches, they were the biggest internal threat to the church's financial and power base. witches were the healers, advisors, and gossips in most communities, acts the church wanted complete control over. Wiches were also usually much better at these, because they would do something semi-practical to heal (give a placebo, a real (working) herb, good advice), as opposed to blood-letting and prayer. They could give realpolitik advice, as opposed to asking god for answers. finally, they would gain knowledge of the activities of the church leaders, and could apply it in ways that would detract from the church.
     
  16. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    you're sterotyping.
    y'see, my grandma's christianity has more to do with jewish mysticism, buddhist teaching, and her own personal revelation than the bible.
     
  17. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    But isn't the bible the basis, the rulebook of all christianity?
     
  18. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    well then that can't be christianity; its Jewish Mysticism and Buddhism.
     
  19. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Christians have spiritual direction from Jesus and live their lives for them. The Bible is there to set an example, what is in it to be learnt from. Not to pick and choose what you want from it.

    Christians are loving, caring people, who will only be too happy to help others if you let them.

    I used to have homosexual feelings, but realised that I really don't want to be lead down that path, I didn't find what Christians said about it to be hateful or fearful, just caring. They want people to be loved by God, and to be loved, is to not sin against God. Think about it! It all makes sense. That's not to say Christians hate people are gay, they hate the sin.

    The Bible is the word of God, written by the people He chose, read it and you find God, not people making things up.
     
  20. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    Why is making love to another person of the same sex so wrong?
    And trust me, if you were homosexual once, you'll most likely always be. You can deny it all you want, but you know deep inside.
    I don't care whether god is real or not; I don't obey or worship him. Its a CHOICE. You can CHOOSE to obey and follow like a blind sheep, or you can us your own brain and feelings.
    I'm going to Gay Pride this year, come with and I'll hook you up! We can have fun! That's what life is all about; life, love, learning, and fun. Trust me, you'd enjoy it.
     

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