how do you make yourself not be sad?

Its a mental state - the position isn't what does it... its your confidence in that position.

Give it a shot, put yourself in that state when you are just sitting down, it works the same way.

 

Actually it is very important how you position your body as this regulates the energy you recieve as well as where it is deposited. When you eat food lying down on your back, this disturbs the digestive process. When you exercize after eating food, this upsets the stomach and stimulates the bowels, causing pain and discomfort.
Likewise, when you are focusing on healing through meditation, the proper position is to sit on your legs while facing directly forward. It is a matter of being able to see prana, or chi, or not. Not everyone's intuitive perception is tuned in or even exercized, so obviously not all of us can see it. But that doesnt mean it isnt going on. To quote Bruce Lee : "There are lots of guys around the world that are lazy. They have big fat guts. They talk about chi power and things they can do, but don't believe it."

 

Going for really long walks typically cures my immediate sadness. Either walking somewhere public, or just around the house. I don't come back home until I want to. Sometimes it takes hours, other times it takes only a few minutes - but I always come back re-charged and ready to tackle the real issue.

 

Avoid by any means white starches, white sugar, and masturbation.

 

go sky diving, have sex, smack your thumb with a hammer...

 

If I'm close to a beach, I always go for a swim. I find it incredibly uplifting.

I do lots of things. Go for a long run/walk in the country. Scream my head off to the loudest music i can find. Sometimes I just cry.

Otherwise, I usually get so wasted and crazy that I can't remember why I was sad in the first place. The next day, I'm too busy feeling like complete shit to actually feel sad.

 

Well, I am not comfortable in such a position, I do not believe any sort of energy comes from such a position, the energy comes from the mind. I can glue tin foil all over my body, doesn't mean I'm now a giant thought antenna.

Eating food is a bodily function, thought is not.

If you look into the greatest phsycic of, well, perhaps ever in recorded history - Edgar Cayce - he simply layed on his back, closed his eyes, and put his hands over his head in a praying position... his mental state had nothing to do with his body position, because it was his mental state - not his body state.

 

Of course you dont believe it, you havent felt it nor seen it, so why would you believe in it? And no the energy does not begin in the the mind, it comes from without, the mind is a receptive tool, which then distributes it to the body. Tin foil? yea becayse that's the same kind of waves we are talking about
And yes eating is a bodily function, but the process of breaking it down into nutrients is not controlled by the body or the mind, its is caused by, controlled by, and sustained by the energy that Im talking about. And when that energy leaves your body, the body dies.

 

Have you actually tried to achieve the same state in any other position? You said it, the *mind* is a receptive tool, it controls the body, and as such, the body does not control the mind... and as such the body does not distribute such energy *to* the mind... and as such the body has no influence on such energy.

If the body did have an influence, you would have to always orient it in the same exact fashion, which is impossible... thought is the only thing that may be exactly the same twice - which is what allows for such a state at all.

Your confidence in such a position is what allows it to work - your fooling yourself into believing you must sit a certain way to think a certain way, thats just not the case.

But please explain (or link) why the body must be positioned in a certain way for the mind to be receptive to a certain energy.

 

The best way for me is to avoid becoming sad in the first place... and to be careful my mood highs aren't too high since I crash off them as surely as I'd crash from a drug induced high.

Everything out there is just information until you assign an emotion to it.

 

"Yoga works primarily with the energy in the body, through the science of pranayama, or energy-control. Prana means also ‘breath.’ Yoga teaches how, through breath-control, to still the mind and attain higher states of awareness. The higher teachings of yoga take one beyond techniques, and show the yogi, or yoga practitioner, how to direct his concentration in such a way as not only to harmonize human with divine consciousness, but to merge his consciousness in the Infinite." — Paramahansa Yogananda.

Prana is the vital life energy which sustains your existance. Along the astral/spinal/causal system of the chakras, this energy is brought in and distributed to each chakra. Material, sexual, drug addict etc. people have this energy concentrated in the lower chakras and remain that way. When the spine is alighned properly (the cross legged or lotus posture) and the head kept looking directly forward during meditation, the energy can be caused to move back upwards into the higher chakras, eventually resulting in illumination, moska, enlightenment, God Realization, etc.
This is the basics cranky, if you want to know more I can point you in the right direction or teach you myself, but this thread is not the place to do it. -

 

but how exactly do you avoid depressing annoyances?

often i have no control over how i feel
the chemicals in my brain are what control my emotions
i can feel happy, angry, sad for absolutely no reason at all
this lack of control frustrates me to no end

relayer, i would really like to get more involved in meditation, so thank you for bringing it up in this thread

 

I have had severe chronic depression since I can remember and I never figured out how to make the darkness go away. After I had my daughter I had SEVERE post partum depression and then I found lexapro. It was the only anti-depressant I hadn't tried and it has really helped me. I still have depression, but when I look and my beautiful baby's smile the sadness just floats away....I know that probably wasn't very helpful to you but that's how I handle it.

Maybe this hug will help!!!

 

thanks, the virtual hug helps a bit i suppose
or at least the thought does

 

If you ever need any help, I would be more than happy to help in any way I can Meditation is THE most effective way to balance the mental equilibrium and steady the consciousness.
Just remember, the emotions are caused by a level of unsatisfaction, and this is something that by far most of us suffer from (regardless of wether people admit it or not) and this is obvious because of all of the creations humans have made to make money off of since they know people will look to external sense gratification. But not even on that level, we are all looking for satisfaction from not just external material things, we are looking to other people to make us happy. But these things will always fall away and are subject to dramatic change.
The REAL happyness, the bliss that never dies and the completey balanced state of mind is brought on by meditation because it forces you to stop looking at the world, and force your focus internally. People pay money to go to doctors, therapists, and take pills, and while there are some cases (insanity, for one) that are genuine, most people dont need to do these things. They are just afraid of confronting the monster that is their desire-driven personality, or the ego. But when we transcend that consciousness we can look down on ourselves and see what really is it that we are lacking. What is causing this depression, or general lathargy? Surely it is chemicals in our brain, this is the physical cause of our moods. But these chemical imbalances are the result of something else, and the cause of the imbalance is a product of thought. So we have to be able so see, what is causing our chemicals to be off balanced, and causing our moods?
I mean really what it all comes down to is satisfaction. Im not going to lie and say I am ok all the time. There are plenty of days when I just dont see the point in being happy. I can go to work, and raise my son, and be a fun dad with no problem. But my inner happyness, that satisfaction of "I am me and this is my life and that's cool" at times, is just not there. But a few rounds of japa mala (prayer beads) clear the consciousness and focus my attention on God alone, and then I just sit there with my candle in front of me, and thats it. I am not there, I can feel my soul dettaching from my body and the energy leaking out of every pore in my skin and suddenly I am not Me anymore, the Me with all the problems, the Me who has no money, the Me who has no grasp of a material future, and the Me who is afraid of turning out as a bad father. But when I am in that state, the Me is just a temprary, changing thing that I am in control of. I feel that meditation will give people total control over their thoughts and emotions.
And by the way, I dont know if you are spiritual or not, but you dont have to believe in God in any way in order to meditate. Trascendence is completely possible without any goal other than to gain more control over your mind and find the bliss that comes from your heart.
Good luck Jess, I hope you find the peace of mind and internal happyness you are really looking for. I mean, I know you will, its just a matter of time, for all of us.
Om shanti

 

let me know if i can do anything jess

 

actually gota agree with relayer on this, despite the fact that your (crankyelbow) posts happen to annoy the shit out of me.

ive studied yoga meditation tantra the whole thanng for a while now. You can control your mind, yeah, but energy comes from your body, your mind isnt the single thing that controls everything. Its a union. A balance of body and mind.

but on topic, its a bad cycle. when im depressed, even though my mat is the one place i can go to get away, its the one place i dont want to go, because im tired, and sad, and dont feel like moving. usually the best things for me when im sad are the things i avoid.

anyway i~s, i hope you feel better, youre a kickass person and you own doc martins and fishnets. So i sincerely need someone like you to be happy.

 

You're welcome..I would give you a real one but my arms just aren't that damn long...

 

take the dogs for a walk

but first smoke a J


and shower


put on something nice


walk to the local bar


gamble a little...


forget the dogs

 

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