There is no God

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Captain Cannabis, Nov 30, 2007.

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  1. Bl4ck3n3D

    Bl4ck3n3D Member

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    Don't you see? Everyone is the son of God, everyone has the ability to reach Christ consciousness. You get to the father through the son of God, which IS YOU. No one else will get you there except for yourself.

    We are all God. Jesus was just in a higher state of consciousness than most others.
     
  2. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    You clearly don't see!
     
  3. Bl4ck3n3D

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    So, because I contradict what you believe in, you reply with an ignorant statement which only makes you look bad as a christian?

    You have proved Xexon's point.
     
  4. Moon_Beam

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    No, now you are saying that atheists can say whatever they like, but as soon as christians defend their faith they are being ignorant and portrey a 'bad christian'.

    If you have read the bible you will surely see that Jesus says He is the Son of God, God predicted in the Old Testament that He would be coming. Therefore, Christians believe that Jesus is the only way to God. He was born to allow people to be adopted into God's family.

    Saying I am ignornant for standing up for what I believe only shows your ignorance in not having any respect for peoples belief.
     
  5. Elijah

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    how can you accept one prophet from one faith, yet not not acknowledge other prophets from other faiths? i don't think there is only one true religion, if there were there would only be one religion in existence. besides, older religions influence newer ones. your christian faith is a spin off of principles from judaism. the hebrews were very much so influenced by their egyptian captors. to say there is only one right way to find god or whatever is just arrogant and ignorant. but as far as debunking god goes, how can yoyu prove or disprove something when it has no tangible form to it? if science knew everything tons of people wouldn't die from horrible diseases such as AIDS and cancer. if science knew everything it wouldn't go out of it's way to suppress little known ideas all in the name of money. most scientists as a matter of fact have been or are god fearing people. many scientists also admit evolution is a theory that lacks a lot of substance. i myself have trouble believing that everything that exists is the result of some accident. i highly doubt that all life started in a puddle of water near an active volcano. but this is what evolution insists. darwin himself rejected his idea on his own deathbed. but even drawin considered the idea that there is or could be a god of some sort.


     
  6. Moon_Beam

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    "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one can come to the Father except through me". That should explain!
     
  7. Bl4ck3n3D

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    I never once said atheists can say whatever they like. You attacked me with your last post, which is why I said it shows your ignorance.

    I have read the bible, however, the bible has been doctored so much that it no longer contains Jesus' real teachings.
     
  8. Moon_Beam

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    I'm sorry if you thought that I was attacking you. I am just standing up for what I believe in! It's not the easiest thing to do, when your religion is attacked everyday!

    All I was saying that we believe He is the Son of God, and the way you said "don't you see" made me think that you were saying we were completely wrong in what we believed so I stood up for it!
     
  9. SlydeHippie

    SlydeHippie Banned

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    This thread is circular argument and we all know that.

    As much as I'd like to say this thread is a waste of space I cannot, simply because I enjoy reading xenon's posts. You have much wisdom and knowledge, thank you for sharing.

    No religion, no G-d that has ever been believed to be existed, is a fact. Not a fact in the sense that facts are statements that can be proven or disproven, and you can't prove nor disprove any of these religions/beliefs.

    That is not saying that they don't exist, simply stating that having these arguments about proving G-d, or disproving It is nonsensical.

    Personally,I don't believe G-d to be an old man in the sky, rather, the good that is inside all of us.

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    Very similar to the words of John Lennon.

    Peace and Love, John.
    Nothing lasts forever.
     
  10. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    How so? The Bible is the word of God.
     
  11. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    No need to get personal!
     
  12. SlydeHippie

    SlydeHippie Banned

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    What he is saying is that, you being a Christian, or anyone of ANY religion for that matter.

    Cannot try to prove G-d, or testify to them using writings that they have no faith in.

    It would be the same as me telling you

    " I believe in a G-d. And in it's holy book called "Saichamus", it states that you must paint your face blue and your hands green."

    You would disregard it correct? Why?

    Simply because those teachings mean nothing to him.

    As far as I'm concerned, those writings could have been from a common man under the influence with tons of spare time. You can't say it is not possible, because it very well is.
     
  13. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Because most Christians are brainwashed.

    Which was the goal when Christianity was formed.
     
  14. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    You cannot blame those who live in a desert for being thirsty.

    All people are born with a spiritual thirst. It's a reminder of where you come from. Your brain doesn't know because its never been to that place, but your heart carries that memory of being one with that which made it.

    Technically, you still are in heaven. (Thats why "heaven" is here and now)

    A soul is an individual point of awareness within the body of "God" It is endowed with tremendous powers of creation. The ability to express those powers are severely limited by assuming physical form. Not so much from the body as the mind that comes with it.

    The mind, is the chokepoint. It is the Satan itself.

    It creates the world you have around you.(And you've heard the rumours that Satan controls this world, haven't you?) And since it cannot enter the spiritual realm itself, it creates one composed of earthly things, based upon whatever evidence it can gather about what that place is supposed to be like.

    Religion is Satanic. It is an earthly creation, which attempts to explain something it has never seen itself. It adores people who have actually had the experience of going beyond the physical world, because then, it has more material with which to build the false world you currently call home.

    Religion is all most people have to point them in any kind of direction to satisfy their spiritual thirst. Most of these believers will incarnate back into this world until they get wise about it's true nature.

    Victims, of their own power of creation.



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  15. acga5

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    we know somethin big must be goin down when hryhorii shows up :D
     
  16. acga5

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    i respect people's decisions not be believe in God or religion, but i do not respect people who just say i believe in God and not in any type of religion because they are too lazy to dedicate themselevs to something and just say "yeah i believe in God". just so they can feel good about themselves and think they are going to "heaven" or some good after life by just saying they believe and not really doing anything to support their supposed belief
     
  17. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There is no sin in pulling off the road for a while to get your bearings.


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  18. def zeppelin

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    The problem isn't with the belief, or the inability to support such belief. The problem is the nature of the belief in itself, that you must experience it first before you can even start to understand it.

    This isn't about making yourself feel better, or to boost your own morale. If you tell someone the truth, then it's the truth; It doesn't mean you're trying to fluff up your own ego. If a football player is very skillful, and says that he is skillful - is that conceited - is that just to boost his morale, or he is just trying to let a fact known? Is this to try to hold something over someone else and say, "Haha! I know something that you don't, therefore I am superior". I don't think anyone is saying they're superior for their beliefs. Those that believe just enjoy trying to express their beliefs, because they hope that others could join them in what they are experiencing.

    The Unconscious God, by Viktor E. Frankl explains these matters very well, and I highly recommend a read.

    http://www.amazon.com/Search-Ultima...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198056683&sr=8-1
     
  19. 6754xx

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    In my eyes, God doesn't always have to be associated with religion.
     
  20. gdkumar

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    Hare Krishna!

    From 6754XX

    In my eyes, God doesn't always have to be associated with religion.



    Very truly said, thank you dear 6754XX. I would go little further saying that God is never associated with any religion.

    Love,

    Kumar.

     
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