Poor Satan, so misunderstood

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  1. greatest I am

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    Poor Satan, so misunderstood.

    Genesis indicates that to know God we must study and know good and evil. After all, this is why God gave us the tree of good and evil.

    Scripture also indicates that all of God’s works are Perfect. This makes Satan Perfect to accomplish the work of helping us learn of good and evil.

    Job tells us that Satan is in the complete control of God. Doing His bidding at all times.

    Since Satan is the only angel who has been given free access to man, we should recognize that He is above the other angels.

    One could say that He works more directly with God than all the other angels. God’s number one angel.

    Why then do most absolutely hate this Satan. He is closer to God than any of us. He at least know of the good and evil that we live with and must learn from.

    Should we not do as scripture indicates we should do and hate sin while loving the sinner. Or in this case love the one who is causing us to sin at God’s urging?

    Should we love Satan? Would Jesus apply His saying to him?

    Regards

    DL

     
  2. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Are you being serious?!
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Good would have no value if it wasn't compared to something.

    Satan performs his function so that you can have a choice.


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  4. rebelfight420

    rebelfight420 Banned

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    Why does God allow satan to exist?
     
  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Because he deosn't.
     
  6. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    I believe hell is very real and if you want to spend eternity there, love him. Evil won't love you back though.
     
  7. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    yup, the Bible claims Satan is a perfect creation of God.
    and then you must believe he wanted Lucifer to rebel and create hell - for if he wasn't suppossed to, he couldn't be perfect

    so then you have two choices -
    does God lie about perfection?
    or is there no such thing as free will? (which the Bible never claims to exist, but many modern day Christian organization uphold)

    predestiny is one of the major things that turns me away from Christianity
     
  8. Bl4ck3n3D

    Bl4ck3n3D Member

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    Stop trolling. How are you not banned yet?
     
  9. greatest I am

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    Sure am.
    Satan is just a name that represents all evil.

    We were given the tree of knowledge so that we could learn why we follow God.

    Without it we are knowledge less drones, not knowing much of anything.

    To test the theory, can you come up with any idea or issue where good and evil do not play a part? I can't.

    Regards
    DL
     
  10. greatest I am

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    Like all of God's Perfect works, he is perfect for the job.
    Sounds like you may recognize the Perfection of God's system and that we live in a Perfect universe.
    Am I correct?

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. greatest I am

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    Because Satan is doing exactly what God wants. He is here to show us the evil branch of the tree.
    Without him we could not get closer to God.

    Regards
    DL
     
  12. greatest I am

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    God would not suffer a hell to ruin His once and still is, spotless continence.

    To have need for a hell, God would have to admit that He screwed up on His record of creating all souls Perfect.

    How do you see God creating souls. Good, good, oops, good, oops.

    God does not do oops.
    Ye of little faith. Give God the ability to do things right.

    Regards
    DL
     
  13. greatest I am

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    God recognizes the uncertainty principle.
    The future is not writen.
    If it were, God would be bored to tears, always knowing what was coming and this would also mean that life is useless to God.

    Since we live then we are useful to reality.

    Regards
    DL
     
  14. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There is no such thing as accidents. :)

    Everything is contained within "God". There is nothing exterior, as this would imply another duality. It is in duality that one finds imperfection.


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  15. Moon_Beam

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    Why should God accept anyone into Heaven, if they didn't accept Him into their life? He has not screwed up on anything, good and evil both exist in this broken world. You go to hell for sinning and for not following Jesus. God gave us the ability to choose, people use that choice and do wrong a lot of the time, it's not much God is asking!
     
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    I know what satan represents. I was surprised at your "should we love satan" comment.
     
  17. Jimmy420

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    fedupamerican i hate that fucking sig
     
  18. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Same here, I think that's what he's going for.
     
  19. FreeEverything

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    This is about the same thinking that busted my ass out of Christianity years ago :)
     
  20. greatest I am

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    If duality exists then as contained within God and if God is Perfect then it to must be Perfect.
    Accidents are part of evil.
    Evil is a tool to learn.
    God does not micro manage.
    He is too busy. If He was the direct cause of accidents then He would rest on the sabbath and we would have one day a week free of accidents.

    Regards
    DL
     
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