Horus and Jesus

read this and tell me what you think.

its fascinating.

think you are celebrating the birth of jesus?

think again.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm


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Maybe you should think again!

 

i am just showing people this knowledge.

look at the comparison bit, uncanny.

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Ummm, The day is the same. It was chosen for similar reasons (... to celebrate the birth of hero X). It revers a different person. Case closed.

This logic could be used to say that pot smokers on april 20 are celebrating hitler

 

The Bible doesn't say when Jesus was born, so an arbitrary date was chosen--well, not exactly arbitrary, because back then it was considered the beginning of the winter solstace and was sacred to Mithras, Sol Invinctus, Horus, Atis, and just about every other pagan god and his dog. This was considered a way of counteracting the pagan holidays, but some cranky Christians have always complained that it's "too pagan" and that nobody knows the real Christmas so we shouldn't celebrate it at all, which they didn't when the Puritans were in power in England and Massachusetts Bay. Damn Puritans! Chanukah and Kwanza are the latest efforts to get in on the December madness.

A lot of the "parallels" seem to be based on the work of the (very) late poet turned Egyptologist, Gerald Massey, who died in 1927. By modern standards, Massey's methodology is somewhat "loose". For example, his allegation that the Egyptian god Horus had twelve disciples appears to be based on a picture of twelve reapers on a mural near a depiction of Horus with no other connection between them. His allegation about the Egyptian god walking on water like Jesus is based on the story of a different supernatural being, a fish man, Annanes, who regularly emerged from the sea during the day and went back at night. Close enough? What about the virgin birth of Horus? The legend goes that the goddess Isis was impregnated by the penis of Horus' dad, Osiris. This was a miraculus event, considering that Osiris was dead at the time, but not quite a virgin conception. Horus' earthly father is said to be Seb (sounds like Joseph?), but actually Seb was Horus' grandfather, and he was "earthly" in the sense that he was god of the earth. Contrary to Massey, Horus didn't give any sermon on a mount and wasn't crucified between two thieves. He was fed to crocodiles. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. It's easy to find parallels if you make them up.

 

if you want to read something interesting, read the ancient story of gilgamesh. it predates written history and includes many parallels with the bible.

 

It's nice to find someone else who actually looks into things...

No offense to the OP, but it's a good idea to get into the practice of digging into something you're curious about instead of just resting on the surface, not just for matters of religion and personal faith... but everything.

It's not to say that parallels don't exist between... well, any world religions you want to pick. But it's easy to "fudge" parallels by presenting them neatly and in a large number, you notice one or two that may be true so in your mind you are more prone to believe they all are.

 

Pretty much everything in the world will have something that is similar, as was said on this thread before it is easy to find parallels if you look for them.

How many films, books, poems etc have been based on the basid of the Bible, either completely or partially?

If there was anything in early works to suggest the Bible is not real, it would be much more widespread. But I agree, I prefer looking into things before I argue for or against it.

 

The point being made is that Christianity appears to be a copycat religion.

It takes an ancient theme, and gives it new clothes.



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Yeah I got that point!

The Old Testament was started in 1400BC, something that was made up, takes a lot of work to keep it going for so long, do you not agree? It is so easy to say it is made up, that of course there is no God, no Jesus, No Virgin etc...... but how can you be so sure there isn't? There are many rumours, still nothing thas been documented where it could be said that it is all rubbish.

If it is new clothes, doesn't mean that it isn't true - you know - hold onto a good thing! Just as it is said, why mess with a good story.

 

i'm not saying there's no spiritual value to any of the stories. i'm just interested in the fact that these morality tales seem to have predated written history...been passed forward to the humans who started the current religious movements...and reworked before being set down in writing. for me there are just too many coincidences to be believable.

 

What you are saying is that Christianity is made up, based on a poem?

 

another way to look at it is that there is a mother religion and that christianity is an offshoot.

 

That isn't how Christians look at it, maybe read up a bit more!

 

Obviously Christians aren't going to think so, you've got to protect your precious religion.

What if your wrong? What if Christians are wrong? What if Christianity as a whole is wrong?

Why, MoonBeam, do you always say everyone else is wrong and never read up a bit more yourself?

 

I do read and study a lot about religion, don't assume you know what I do.

I just said this somewhere - it's a faith, no one can prove anything for certain, it may turn out to be true, it may not. People shouldn't sit back and allow others to say whatever they want about religion and not say anything back! I know what I believe, I have faith that there is something bigger, that Jesus was the Son of God so I won't be agreeing with anything that I don't believe in. Just as you won't be agreeing with me! So, while you say that about me, the same could be applied to you.

 

oh believe me, i am aware of that.

 

the op brought something up for discussion, and we're discussing it. not a big deal.

 

Like I said I am up for discussing religion, but not for people calling Christians disgusting, lacking intelligence, stupid etc. Discussing something does not need to include insults.

 

i don't recall saying any of those things.