Do girls want sex?

well, just getting married means you miss out on all sex and that is very important to a guy especially when all types of other guys, many of whom are losers, idiots, rednecks get so much sex because they are the proper race.

Also, most americans date and screw people just for the pleasure of sex and have no intention of marrying that person. There are guys on this site who have had hundreds of sex partners, I dont think they had intentions of ever marrying any of them. I really don't know what you were trying to show in that passage.

 

oh my, the US is definitely a sexual circus no doubt about it. All guys talk about is screwing around and they have no real feelings for their sex partners. Wow, I guess yours is a woman's perspective. Like I said, one of my white friends keeps saying "bone'em and disown em".

Women think that men are talking to them for companionship or love. That is not why men talk to women; you are aware of this right?

Marriage would be fine, but what is wrong with messing around? I mean its only fair that I get a chance to do the same thing as white or black guys.

 

also thanks for agreeing about the racial pattern of white women with black men. So we agree that racial preferences are a big factor in sexual coupling. None of my white friends has ever been with a black woman, even though they have been with hundreds of women of other races.

 

I disagree. In New York, at least, Asians have a MUCH better chance at white women than blacks.

I will agree that in lower income brackets the reverse is true.

Secondarily, I said I'm of African descent. I'm not perceived as being black by most, probably. I am brazilian, and mixed (father's side is of Portuguese background). I was asked if I was Indian, "Muslim", etc. But I think most people would guess I'm Puerto Rican or Dominican.

I think, also, a lot of white american women will date black AMERICANS, but no one who they perceive as a FOREIGNER.

That being said, I do think it depends on your millieu and your demeanor. I choose to interact with people who are quite cosmopolitan, and rarely even consider ethnic backgrounds, so long as you speak english, dress well, etc.

My demeanor further encourages that openness. I think a lot of people internalize and pre-empt prejudice by excluding themselves or acting awkwardly/timidly/defensively toward whites.

Your numbers are too speculative for me to consider them. But even by your statistic, you'd have 5 out of 100 white women to date. And you're telling me you've NEVER been LOOKED AT by a SINGLE white woman.

So there must be other reasons.

Just to clarify, I have no bulging muscles (although I'm fit), and I'm relatively short (5'6").

Again, I think by rationalizing the social constraints that you certainly face, you're writing your own self-fulfilled prophecy, and not facing the role you play (behaviorally) in your own isolation.

Speculative numbers are a way to avoid responsibility. Are you shy?

 

That's all complete bullshit. You're looking at sex as some kind of conquest or game where the person with the largest number of conquests or partners is the happiest or most succesful. That's total nonsense. You're completely disconnecting sex from love, companionship, romance. Look around at the posts in this section. Most Americans don't think that way at all.

And you seem to be obsessed with finding a girl outside your own race, not even for romance or comanionship, but just apparently to have sex with. In the first place, you're primarily treating women as sex objects-that's your A#1 problem to start with. On top of that, you're overly obsessed with finding a woman outside your own ethnic group. It's fine to desire women of other ethnic groups, but what's wrong with South Asian women? Most of them that I've seen are pretty, educated, sweet girls.

Instead of looking for the right partner to go through life with, you seem to be mainly looking for a white woman primarily to have sex with. You might as well hire a hooker if that's all you want.

 

I'm sorry that you have to face that kind of behavior. But I do wish to point out that the overweight/racial comparison is dangerous and doesn't hold water (despite the fact that both "hurt").

Overweight people are discriminated against based on what is perceived as a PERSONAL flaw.

People are discriminated against, ethnically, for SYSTEMIC reasons, quite apart from whether they have PERSONAL flaws OR NOT.

I've been faced with a few awkward situations with people who would lump me together with people with disabilities and metal retardation and so on, on the basis that they also face discrimination and, perhaps, shouldn't.

These people talked as though I should thank them for being part of a larger group of people who face discrimination...uuuuuuhhhhh.

Actually, being non-white is not a disability...and it isn't unhealthy or abnormal. Or unatractive, either.

I see what you're saying Allonym, but hopefully you can see why the comparison rubs me the wrong way.

 

That's all nonsense, and I'm not looking at it from a 'womans' perspective.' You obviously don't know any educated, normal men that have stable, romantic relationships with women (there are millions of them) and that don't just look at women as sex objects. You just seem to be hanging around with guys that spend their time in titty bars and that look at women as sex objects, and then moaning about how they don't 'get any'. The average man isn't like that at all, in fact just the opposite. Like I said, you might as well just go ahead and hire a hooker if that's the way you look at life.

 

Charise, notice I didn't say the South is LESS prejudiced than the North EITHER. I think there are different kinds of racism. The South has a more condescending kind of racism, whereas in the North people will ok you to death, and flash PC smiles and all the while grab their purses tighter.

So no, I've been to the South and I haven't experienced it being LESS racist either.

 

Not in New York, believe you me.

Further, I think both Charise and RJ have their points. Charise is speaking from a certain idealistic perspective common among women.

RJ is speaking from a objectifying perspective common to men.

I do believe there is a middle ground.

 

Well, I've spent very little time up North, so you have much more experience there, and I'm sure your observations are valid. However, if you could see the huge number of interracial couples in the town next to me, I wonder what you'd think. You can't go into even the smallest restaurant or shop without seeing an interracial couple-I'm sure it's about 50% of the population-I'm really shocked by the high number-not because I disagree with what they're doing, but simply because it seems that it's almost become the norm! A really predjudiced society wouldn't be doing that kind of thing.

Pretty soon, the average kid in that town (well, small city, really, about 50,000 people) is going to have blue eyes and nappy hair. Yea, I mean, these people aren't just dating or screwing around, they're having lots of kids-very interesting phenomenon.

I'm sure that you make very valid observations, but the South is also changing quite rapidly-it even shocks me as to how quickly.

 

I disagree that more interracial relationships means less prejudice. I know it's hard to conceive of it, but sometimes interracial relationships are borne out of prejudice (as a way to gain social mobility).

Brazil, where I'm from, is a prime example.

 

I've heard that some black women want a white man so that they can feel successful. I knew a gorgeous black stripper years ago who only dated white guys. Yes, this contradicts the idea that white men don't date black women, but not really because she was stunning, almost supermodel type and looked a lot like Naomi Campbell. This dancer did not want to associate with blacks and did not want to talk about black culture.

 

I don't think you understand guys. Even the complete Christian guys that I have known were very fascinated by my porno movies and asked to borrow them!! Guys do look at women as sex objects, this is the primary motivation. Do you honestly believe guys in High School and College go out with girls in order to find a lifelong spouse?? Good grief.

do you honestly think guys go to bars and frat parties to find a wife? Uh... no. And girls go there to hook up as well.

I do use escorts to get the same experience that white and black guys get for free on a regular basis. It does not make be a bad guy or disrespectful towards women, in fact it makes me just like them, except that I have to use professionals due to the lack of interest in me for reasons I've explained. I'm college educated, make over $100k/year and am a nice person --- but that really is not what the USA sex circus is about, its about LUST and preferences based on looks. Its very superficial and shallow. Just read all the threads on this forum, its mostly young people having pleasure and lust, not seeking to find a spouse and raise grandkids.

 

i understand, because you feel that beign overweight is a personal choice whereas race isnt. ignoring of course the various medical reasons behind some people being overweight (of course, not all, but a decent amount do not choose to be overweight but face medical issues that make being skinny impossible)
i also understand that people who are racist rationalize their behaviour as well. "why cant they behave more like white people, more like civilized people? why do they have to use that ghetto language?" etc. perhaps they are not comprable on exactly the same level, but i dont seen them as disparate as you do. i still think that prejudice, when it harms another, sucks hairy balls

 

Well, so far today, I've been accused of not understanding men, and also not understanding racism. Ahem....

To respond to rj45: Whereas there are certainly aspects of our culture that are superficial and shallow, there are also many aspects that aren't: as far as I'm concerned, YOUR attitude is the superficial and shallow one, and if you'd quit hanging out at titty bars and looking at life through that lens, maybe that would change. Plus, you totally avoided my question about arranged marriages in your culture, or what in the world is wrong with women from your own racial group, why you don't want them. Guess that must be a touchy subject or something.

And I understand men just fine, thank you very much, rj45. I've been with a lot more men than you have with women, and most men are definitely not as you describe them. You simply hang out with the wrong crowd.

And to respond to praxiskepsis: if interracial relationships don't mean less prejudice, it certainly doesn't mean there's more prejudice in society when people engage in them! In the area I live in, the people that engage in them really have nothing to gain societally from them at all, certainly not social mobilty. I'm sure that's true in some places, but not here. The average white girl that has a relationship with a black guy in this area, if anything, is engaging in downward mobilty rather than upward by doing so, if we're just looking at it from a mobility standpoint. I fail to see how a town full of black guy/white girl couples is more prejudiced or the couples more upwardly mobile because of those relationships.

 

Charise, black guy/white girl couples are the most common kind of miscigenation toward upward mobility there is. We are talking about two groups which are oppressed: women and blacks. Again, Brazil is the best example there is for it, and I'm a product of that kind of interracial mixture myself. There are articles written about it: I'm not pulling it out of my ass.

I'm not saying that you don't understand racial dynamics. I'm not saying these people have no feelings for each other. What I'm saying is that systemically, black guy/white girl relationships are not evidence of lack of prejudice/racism.

You keep referring to MORE or LESS racist societies. I'm not making a quantitative argument. Rather a qualitative one. I think frequent black guy/white girl relationships may actually be a very distinct proof of a certain KIND of racism.

Cozier, perhaps. Less tense than your Northern political-correctedness, perhaps. But racist nevertheless.

How do you suppose single black women feel when they see the most successful among black males in their society invariably shack up with white women???

P.S. Notice I'm talking about socio-economic SYSTEMS, not individuals.

 

It's not a matter of choice. Had I the choice between being white and of african descent, I'd still choose the latter.

The problem is that you're comparing being non-white to what you have yourself described as a medical condition!!!

Being non-white is not a medical problem!

 

Somewhere I recall reading that you grew up in a feminist household: correct me if I'm wrong. If so, it's obvious in your current mode of thinking.

Feminism is notorious for not seeing anything good in anything, and always seeing some underlying, dark, ulterior motive, even in the best of circumstances. Give women more freedom, and they'll find some reason to conclude that they're really more enslaved. Sure. Nonsense.

And the town I'm referring to that has so many interracial relationships lately is a mid-sized, working class industrial town, and I rather doubt (I know these people pretty well) that most of these folks that engage in these relationships ever gave a thought to any of these sociological or philosophical concepts-they're too busy working their butts off to think about such things anyway-no one really even bats an eyelash at them being together, and if anything this has contributed to the place being more open and tolerant-certainly not the other way around.

And btw-these black guys that live in this town that are married to and having kids with white women aren't 'succesful'-they're just factory workers that are on the same level as their white counterparts. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

 

Charise, let's just say I think your idea of feminism totally misguided, and that I have nothing against interracial couples in your home town. I'm sure there is a great deal of open-minded, hard-working folk among them.

However, that has nothing to do with what I've said in previous posts.

P.S. I know this is important to you, and I don't want to be offensive in any way. Cheers.

 

No, it's not misguided at all-I understand it very well. I just don't freaking agree with it!