I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

can the universe have always existed?


if you answer yes, then why can't god have ALWAYS EXISTED?

If, no, then where did the universe come from?

 

Where did God come from?

 

I just thought you guys should read this again. Thanks, relaxxx!

 

I love the wat you put it Relaxxx.
Our idea of god is just a projection of what we know of ourselves. In my opinion hunans need a god of some sort becauae they cant be content withthe fact that this life of ours really is what it is. Lifwe is hard and filled with pain, suffering, heartache and termiol. Us men want to believe that one day everthing will be perfectly fine. That is what heaven is. God is also made due to the fact , men are lonely and want o believe that there is a all loving go who they can cling to during hard times. There is no god. Life is nothing more than matter condensed to a slow contant vibration. which is what l like to call the flow of life.

 

My problem with it is that it suggests your superior wisdom. Truth is, not even our leading experts can agree what consciousness is or isn't, how life began, etc., so anything you say is just guessing. But I don't know of any reputable scientist who believes that energy "collects" into matter by some automatic process.

 

Conciousness takes a complex grouping of cells to make a brain, which is capable of understanding and thought. When you look at an atom, it holds only protons, neutrons and electrons, which are all just producers of different energies. And that's it. They aren't there to think, to feel, to wonder how Johnny is doing. The atom floats around, unaware of its own existance.

 

I understand this and it is well thought out- I'm not sure I agree though. My theory is that consciousness is something that transcends matter- it is a sort of energy. My awareness/consciousness seems to be located in my head- it resides within the brain but is not defined by the brain and is not physically part OF the brain. It is the product of energies produced not only throughout the brain to a lesser extent but elsewhere in the neurological system. I've read articles about transplant patients acquiring some personal donor traits, especially food preferences, cravings upon receiving the organ. Please read.

 

Since nobody knows what consciousness is, I guess we could have any theory we want--or suspend judgment.

 

i love reading this thread for shits and giggles.

 

I suppose we could... and since no hard science seems to exist on that we are left with our cheap theories. The beauty is that in the absence of provable data those theories are difficult to disprove. Of course, they're equally difficult to support... which leaves us to either brainstorm and try to reach a consensus of what seems to make the most sense OR engage in a verbal slugfest where people who for some reason find it critically important to demonstrate how much smarter they are than anyone else, use their presumed genius to label the ideas of another as cheap--- less for the purpose of debating the idea that has been put forth. The true itinerary usually is indict the intelligence of the person by casting a shadow on their credibility. This strategy has a tendency to backfire.

 

Then I suggest you reread it when you find yourself constipated and depressed.

 

haha. that made my day.

 

more profound than ever before.

 

i really think too, that is the one most important point about all of it, whether someone believes or doesn't, any of anything else.

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I agree my philosophy has changed drastically in the past months. Whatever this divine source is that surrounds us is i have no clue, but the more you seek it out, the more you become a loving person, and you clue in that all that matters is indeed LOVE. Love of everyone and everything in all places and all times unconditionally no matter what or who they are. And I do firmly believe snake's philosophy is right. We are "ONE". This thread SHOULD not be trying to convert a man's way of thinking, it should be converting his heart to understand this LOVE, and this ONE-ESS in the hearts of men.

Seek Love or Seek God, what is the difference?

The reward of faith is GOD, and the reward of GOD, is LOVE!!!!!!!

Say tomehto or tomahto, if you ask me, it all comes to the same.

 

I'm sure this has been said before on this thread, but:

Each generation takes the things they don't understand yet to be proof of God. Back when we didn't know what stars were, we thought they proved God; later on when we figure out how life started, we'll find another mystery and insist that that proves God. It's not proof of God; it's proof that we haven't figured everything out yet.

Your argument shows a lack of knowledge about history.

You will never succeed in proving God, just like I can never succeed in disproving it. (And it's a bit arrogant to think you can do it when Sartre failed!) It's a matter of faith - or lack thereof - which is as it should be.

 

Haha, the proof is all around us. Spirituality comes to the person, not the other way around. You'll never know until you've achieved full self-realization of "god"(if you want to call it that).

Experience > any physical proof

 

this is meaningless. then why don't you show us some experience instead of physical proof as evidence? we are communicating with eachother through a physical means.

 

So, how do you know?

Are you talking from experience? Does that mean a dickhead like you has achieved full self-realization of "god". Have you merged with God yet?

Haha! Nice try dork.

 

LOL. But really, there is no proof of God. None whatsoever. I believe in God because of logical reasoning.