So I have alot of Codeine, any recreational value?

I absolutely love the feeling oxycdone and hydrocodone give me...never tried codeine because I know its a weaker opiate, but about 30 pills of the 30mg/300 apap fell into my lap and was wondering how many I would need to take to get the feeling of say 20mg of hydrocodone. would it be too many that it wouldnt be worth it due to the apap?

 

I dunno, I never felt codeine, even off of four 30's. But I have had 100 mg of cough syrup, and I definitely felt it, so I think the key to making the most of your pills would be to extract the codeine. I dont know how, but theres a shitload of tutorials her, search for cold water extraction. if your just going to take a few pills though, Id recommend at least 100 to really get a high going. that depends on how heavy you are, though. if you have a high tolerance in general, you should take more, like 150 maybe. that just my experience with them, they might get you really high at first, so dont take too many, just what you think you can handle. also look codeine up on erowid, they have helpful experience reports.

 

it would be better to sell it to kids who dont really know what it is , or if you really want to you can extract 350-400mg(dont go above that cuz liver cant absorb anymore and its wasted) and drink it on an empty stomach(dont snort or shoot lol)

 

I take somewhere around 275-375mg to get fucked up.

I wouldn't say it's weaker in it's high. It's just chemically weaker. I don't like them much because they make me itch like mad but when I can get my hands on em I usually take around 270mg or more.

 

I'm no opiate expert but codeine should feel about the same as morphine. It comes down to how much and how fast your body can convert codeine to morphine. It won't hit the receptors quite as fast so the peak will be a little lower or just slower to get there. I'd estimate about four pills of codeine (30 mg) gives similar effect as 20 mg of hydrocodone. Individual effects may vary it could be more like 8 pills and in that case it may be worthwhile to extract. In any case respect the same warnings that come with any strong opiate.

 

Codeine sucked. I took some with some vikes and didn't feel any different. I just felt wicked talkative and hyper. The complete opposite from what opiates are supposed to do but that's what vikes do to me for some reason.

 

you are wayyyyy off lol, if this was true everyone would be buying otc codeine over here, 350mg of codeine is a very subtle high, your body cant abosrb more than 400mg and even @ 400 its still pretty weak, cant even be compared to a 50-80mg dose of hydrocodone or even a 40mg dose of oxy

 

yeah this is bullshit

or else I wouldnt buy any other opiates.

 

twizz wat part of ONT u from?

 

My estimation of 6:1 was only for 20 mg of hydrocodone. It is limited. The output is a function of CYP2D6 so any inhibitors or abnormalities of that enzyme will change the result.

The rush potential is less than oxycodone.

 

i dont really get a rush from oxycodone( maybe because i dont IV it)

 

Thats how I typically feel on vicodin and once while on kratom--opiates at their best. When I want to doze I prefer K-pins, xanax, or ambien over opiates. After surgery I was supplied with oxycodone and it wasn't strong enough for the pain. Once the pain started to decrease (after several days) I was able to enjoy it a little more, but I slept a lot. I left a few pills in the bottle and forgot about them. About 6 wks after surgery when the pain was pretty much absent, I took them and it felt nice, and I slept well that night, but didn't have a huge desire to do it again. That is in contrast to how I felt when taking vicodin, but then again it was in a different enviornment so I don't absoultely know that they affect me differently than oxy. Not yet anyway.

 

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twizz where do you find codeine in canada? do you have to go to the pharm and ask for it or is it on the shelf, and if so under what names?

 

South-eastern Ontario. Think Hamilton/Ancaster area.

(That's near Toronto)

 

This is because vicodin (hydrocodone) as well as oxycodone, are derived from thebaine, one of three naturally occuring alkaloids found in the same poppy, the other two obviously being codeine and morphine. The difference is that thebaine has the added quality of a stimulant effect as well as the typical depressant effects.

 

The only difference between codeine and morphine is a suck ass methyl group. One carbon and three hydrogens, but it makes all the difference. Extract the codeine from the APAP, demethylate it to morphine, then heat the morphine with acetic anhydride...you'll love the result.

 

its not as easy as you make it out to be, most people are just going to end up hurting themselves, might as well just buy it off the street than spend all the cash on lab equipment and chemicals

 

wait...did I really just see this post? hahahahahah dude, send me YOUR lab equipment. last time I checked this process is way tougher than you seem to think.