I have when i took lsd. Its pretty indescribable, but i was out in the colorful outdoors it was the happiest i had ever been in my life, i could feel the breeze of the wind hitting my face, and the sunlight was just coming out, i was surrounded by the most beautiful colors that i would have never imagined ever without lsd. I got to experience true "bliss" I have not been religious before this, but now lsd has shown me how truly happy i can be, and now i believe in nirvana in a whole new way.
everything is a spiritual experience, except, maybe, religious experiences. i'm kidding. kind of. but, yes. i really think that once you've had a "full blown spiritual experience", everything becomes spiritual, and it's not something that *happens to you* anymore... it's always there, it's just a matter of tuning in to it, and to what degree you're able to at any moment. drugs are like windex in a space ship of mucked-up windows that look out in every direction. i don't know if it's possible to see out of all of them at once. i don't think so... not in this life. the scenery changes even while you're watching it. but you can remember, once you've looked...
That is so incredibly true. I just love your windex analogy. I might even use that in my sig (if you'll let me). I guess that's why, once you've tried drugs, it's hard to brush off the experience with "but it's just chemicals in my brain". Chemicals in the brain will go away, but the memory of the experience stays, and you need something other than "chemicals" to explain the reality of it all... because that's really what's at the heart of it, isn't it? That these experiences feel so real? In that sense, I guess all psychedelic experiences are "spiritual" at a fundamental level.
analogies are my favorite thing. you can use it, sure. thanks everything is "just chemicals". if these experiences aren't real and don't matter, nothing is real and nothing matters. i guess it's up to each of us to choose, yes or no. whatever feels true, or whatever we can convince ourselves to believe...
I guess that's the flip side of the coin. That's true, but ultimately I don't think experiences can ever not be real. I mean, ultimately (at least, this is what I believe) the "realness" of things is in the experience of it. Does that make sense? I mean, there's no such thing as a real thing that isn't being experienced, and no experience that isn't also a real thing.
Wow i really like this post its so true. Yeah i know "drugs are just chemicals messing with your brain" but you just have to understand that obviously. I don't believe what i had was a real religious experience, but it kinda was in my own way it just gives me a whole new faith in how incredible existance can be. But the way prismatism said it was so great how once the experience happens, it is always there.
The first spiritual experience I had on psychedelics which during the trip I was aware of it being spiritual, was when I was 16 on LSD at an old friends apartment. It was 4am and I was sitting lotus position directly in front of 2 speakers wearing only boxers with pink lipstick on and blue eyeshadow that my friend Julie painted me with, and both of us moved into blissing out to an extremley amplified Gates Of Delerium by Yes, specifically the last 10 minutes with just the slide guitar and vocals proclaiming this message: "Soon, Oh soon the Light...Our's to shape for all time, our's the right....The Sun will lead us, our reason to be here..." It was then that I found out that transcending consciousness in order to tap an ever-present, ever-new, eternal source of an ocean of harmonic bliss was totally possible and that there are many ways to attain euhporia under God's loving rays of hope, positive energy and Love. I also learned how much of a pain it is to remove makeup, thank God I dont have to incorporate that activity into my daily habits :tongue:
i once had too much booze, weed and rigs.. and then my head started spinning out of control. and i had problems breathing, i couldn't speak, i was about to faint or give out... i felt like i was going to die. and that was pretty spiritual because i was alone with my mind- my body was out of my control or so i believed. and i realized thoughts are powerful energy. and then i upchucked everything out and felt SO much better. thank you god.
That's interesting. It kinda shows how you can learn spiritual things from the experience without the experience itself being spiritual per se.
i had a religious experience before and it was that gods face and the devils face was on different sides of my room..and for some crazy reason i chose the devil because he told me he promise girls and different drugs..so when i chose him i didnt see girls and drugs so then god started telling me that heaven was better..well for this to happen i found out that you have to be schizophrenic..because most people cant hear things when on mushrooms but my psycologist told me i can because im shizophrenic
Yes. I write a lot when I'm in an enlightened state of mind and around half (maybe more) of the times I've smoked herb it's felt like a deeply spiritual experience. That may stem from the fact that identify with Rastafari than any other religion. In the spiritual sense, it's never any good when mixed with non-psychedlics drugs (nicotine, alcohol, or TV: three things which I quit long ago). Also, although it's still fun and feels good to get stupid, it's never felt like a spiritual experience. It also seems to lose meaning if smoked too often.
Yes i did, once, when I was tripping on 3 hits of blotter. An oak tree unraveled itself into little three dimensional beings that made a never-ending bridge in the sky. I guess I would call that a religious experience.
It was on a nice sunny day in a forest when i had this experience. I was about 16 years old and had taken shrooms whith a friend of mine. As soon as the shrooms kicked in everything around me started to become 'alive', not only around me, but i self too had become part of this happening; it was everywhere, in everything, this 'energy', this 'presence'. Suddenly i found myself in this lotus position and felt like i was floating above the ground (maybe this is where the myth of the floating yogi comes from, hehe). I spontaniously started chanting something which was somewhat similair to the chanting of Ohm. The vibration of the sound i made was really a great feeling and intensified the experience, which was getting at its peak. It was like the whole universe was flowing through me, becoming aware of itself. Words cannot describe how intense beautiful and revealing this experience was(especially not whith my lack of the english language, hehe), it definitly changed the way I precieve the world.
Om shanti That was beautiful, thank you for sharing! I wouldnt discover God through the first inital vibration of which life is a reverberation of until I was 21! Namaste -
I would say I saw god on acid It was like a brilliantly white glowing geometric shape that constructs all of reality and seeing it was like the most powerful and pertinent information Ive ever encountered, I felt like finding this out just wiped out so much stuff in my head to make room for it. It was peculiar too that like a couple weeks after this experience I went and visited a friend who I don't see often at all. We don't say much, but then right out of the blue he starts drawing out the tesseract on paper, metatron's cube and showing some principles of it to me. Which is exactly what that shape was that I thought was God. I also heard Terence McKenna talk of this notion too, that he thinks the 'psychedelic experience' is quite literally a shape. But everyone just sees the single shape differently and thats them. I sort of think it now as like. This shape is all the energy that creates my being. And seeing the shape is just clearly seeing all aspects of my being. Like seeing my soul, inner-self, super clearly.
If what you saw Ry was that which constructs all of reality, this is what I referred to in my thread Understanding the Nature of Existance as the Manas, or the Mind. The soul is covered up a bit deeper but the core of the subtle energy is the last of maya to break through in order to touch atma. I dont think my thread was comprehended by anyone, at least no one who posted, but that's ok. I dont think most of us can see without seeing, or hear without hearing, or read without reading, yet the manas pumps on out. The crux of reality is bent on illusion anyway, seeing as how it is the beginning of duality as it splits in two from that focal point. Namaste -