is it possible to inhale heroin and live...reading about jim morrison.

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  1. SuperQ

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    i read that jim morrison possibly died inhaling heroin because he thought it was coke. so then if you inhale heroin is it a instant kill or would it be because he probably took too much of it cause he'd need a higher dose if it was really coke. (maybe tolerance) I don't know much about these 2 drugs so i might be wrong in a few places.
     
  2. Prea

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    What do you mean inhale?
    Inhaling is: draw deep into the lungs in by breathing

    You don't smoke coke or heroin. Well, coke at least, I guess some people smoke heroin.

    If, however, you mean snort. A lot of people snort heroin, as long as it's a safe dose, it's fine. Probably bad for your nasal passages and lungs, but it's not going to be fatal.
     
  3. sam&ella

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    Some people will say anything to sell a book, as did Sam Bernett:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6294730.stm

    Snorting heroin, even in a massive dose, will not cause instant death. Cyanide, yes, heroin, no.

    BTW, I saw Jim Morrison & Janis Joplin on a beach in Belize last year. Jimi was there too!
     
  4. dd3stp233

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    Snorting and smoking heroin are some of the most common ways for non-shooters to do it. Problems can arise, obliviously, when a person thinks it coke and rails out a fat line, which happened to friend of mine at a party, who then ended up in the ER, but was treated and later OK.

    BTW- cyanide doesn't kill you instantly either, it makes a persons blood unable to use oxygen, so a person basically suffocates, this takes a few minutes to maybe an hour for death to occur from an accute dose.
     
  5. salmon4me

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    I disagree. You don't think anyone ever died doing a 1/2 gram line of china white before? You're crazy. :)
     
  6. sam&ella

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    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070918182104AADMmDX

    In pill form, it takes 9 seconds...snorting will be even faster.
     
  7. sam&ella

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    Again, not "instantly", as in cyanide.
     
  8. Shocbomb

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    Morrisson did die From a massive Herion OD but it was not form inhaling it was from shooting it up. Countless reports and statements have been made buy his friends,people he partyed with and his band mates that Jim was using Herion every day for about 2 years before his death ? Who knows though-The most believd story is that Jim was partying in paris and drank alittle to much whiskey and Shot up a little to much Herion and died from the lethal mix. Some also say he was moved into the bath tub after he already ODed ? Who knows the real stroy of where the death happend. I do think his death was from a mixture of Alchool and Herion ? the bottom line though is his body was just woren out and beaten down from hois life style of daily drug abuse and alchool, Even if he did not dye at the age of 27 in paris it would of been a miracle if he ever saw 30. His liver and Heart were shot from the way he drank and did drugs !!!!! He was phsically addicted to bolth Herion and alchool.A normal day for Jim was to Drink about 2 liters of wiskey a day, Sniff about a 8 ball or 2 of coke, smoke about 3 to 4 packs of Marlboros and shoot up Herion all day long. Sometimes do all of that on top of droping LSD if it was a day he felt like tripping. His consuption of all drugs and Alchool is unlike any rock star or person for that matter I have ever read about or studied, It was just insane the amount of shit that guy put in his body on a daily basis !!!! When he died at the age of 27 he looked like he was about 50 years old.
     
  9. sam&ella

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    Yeah, since the frogs in Paris never did an autopsy, we'll never know for certain how he died.
     
  10. get_up_stand_up

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    Not all of this is true. Most is exageration. Morrison was deathly afraid of sharp objects and all the people close to him say he would never shoot heroin. He did live way to fast though. He was lucky he didn't die sooner. He was a great mind though.
     
  11. -beatnick

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    they wrote "inhale" in wikipedia too damn it.
     
  12. JahRed24

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    I would relate myself more to bradley nowell than any other singer/musician. He didn't hide his addiction (u can tell this by listenin to his lyrics) but no one really made a big deal about it either? i dunno it was just like kinda over looked, "oh he OD'd on Heroin" and that was it, no nonsense, no conspiracies, nothing...lost a good man in 1996 to the vicious cycle of opiate addiction that i can relate to all too good..i gotta kick this demon for good..

    one day im gonna lose the war
     
  13. xLover

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    Jim is a hero of mine, not for his drugs, but as an artist.

    Jim is believed to have died from a heroin o.d. Supposedly he snorted a line or two, who knows with him, and then took a bath and was drinking. With heroin and alchohol 1+1=3 and in this case 3 is death.
     
  14. Shocbomb

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    JahRed24-I like you also love Bradly Nowell and Sublime. From what I heard In Brads case it was really unexpected befroe he overdosed every one thought he cleaned up his act from hard drugs for good .The two best accounts about his life before is death are the video Stories, Tales, Lies & Exaggerations where his family,friends like Opie Ortiz, Michael "Miguel" Happoldt and his band mates-Eric Wilson and Bub Gaugh talk about Bradly and his drug addiction and the time leading up to his OD. And the Biography written about Brad I can't remember what its called now but its also a good account of his life and his 27 years on this Earth. From what I gather after brad got out of jail in late 95 he really cleaned up his act,I guess he was only drinking a little bit and smoking weed. He stoped using all hard drugs like Crack/coke,Meth and Herion,he also stopped drinking hard core.By all accounts he was doing great and the band was writting great music also when he was clean, But just like mot OD's that happen its when he person goes back to using and has no tolerance at all, I have seen it a few times myself happen to people I know, After you are clean and you go back to using Herion or hard opiates you think you can still hanlde alot like whwn your body had a habbit and big tolerance you don't think a bag will get you high when in truth it will so you end up doing as much as you did when you had a habbit. He was also drinking before hand which is a terrable mix like we all know. It was such a big shock to every one becasue they all thought he finally put his addicition to Herion behind him. But people can'tfault him he was a Herion addict and know dam well how easy it is to go back to using after you have been clean for awhile its not hard at all you think about that high all the time. But even if he was using for weeks after getting out of jail and Bub and Eric knew what could they say to him. Bub was a totol alcholic and loved Crack and meth.Bub also liked to use Herion every now and then but he was not a addict like Brad. out of the 3 Eric ws the least affected buy drugs and Alchool but he to loved to drink alot and also liked to dab into hard rugs like Crack and Meth every now and then, So even if he was using before hand what could they have done or said ? Its like a Coke addcit who is strung out trying to tell a meth addict who is strung out that he has a problem and needs to clean up. LOL-What the fuck is that if someone who was just as bad as me told me I had to clean up I would laugh in there face,it would pretty much just fall on deaf ears ?? In Brads case I just wish he would of gotten on Methadone,Suboxen or so other opiate substitute, I think he would most likely still be hear making some kick ass music like he was best at doing !!!!!!
     
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    no doubt Morrisons best work was inspired by lsd far more than opiates or alcohol. I can imagine how easy it would be for someone of Morrisons stature to wind up hooked on H. I suppose at first it balanced the ego annihilation of the many acid trips, a perfect euphoric escape to his accelerating fame and expanding name. But soon his artistic side faded in favor of the infancy comforts that come with opiates. I guess that his biggest problem as far as performance is concerned was the booze, but throwing H (and coke) in the mix is what ultimately killed him. Whether he new what he was doing (i.e. H and its purity) might never be known. Alcohol and H (however taken) is flirting with respiratory failure.
     
  16. The Stig

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    If you ask me Morrison was just a Mick Jagger copy who somehow got the undeserved title of 'poet'
     
  17. Twizz

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    Jim Morrison was a rock god and a genious mind.

    He also died of excessive drinking, not a heroin OD.

    When he died, he was clean of all things except alcohol and marijuana.
     
  18. elover

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    framesh1ft - "But soon his artistic side faded in favor of the infancy comforts that come with opiates." His artistic side never faded, nearing his death he was trying to open his own publishing company, and wanted to leave music for acting and poetry.

    the stig - Mick Jagger sucks balls.
     
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    I don't know where people are getting their info its all conjecture, and yeah i'm guilty of it. I think alcohol + H or alcohol + barbirtuates is most probable. What is most mysterious though is whether it was suicide, homicide, or an OD. I like the doors music. The first time I listened to them on cid was calm ecstacy, mind expanding, wonderful.
     
  20. Shocbomb

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    Get up stand up- You say that my statement is mostly false please show mw some facts becasue I know for a fact Morrison was a Herion user and its 99% certain that why he died in Paris. But I ask you this if Jim was not shooting up Herion back then how the hell was he doing it ? Herion in the 60's and 70's all the way up to the early 90's would only be able to be used buy IV injection thats it you could not smoke it or nsiff it back then because the purity was so low and the agents they used to cut it with back then. Its not until the mid 90's where people could sniff Herion and smoke to get high and the main reason was becasue the purity went up enuff and the mixture was changed so it could be sniffed and you could smoke the vapors on Tin foil ,Any study on Herion will tell you this and so will any old school Junkie for that matter. Second I have read countless books and web pages about the Doors and the life of Jim Morrison, The way Jim got into Herion was he was buying it for his girlfriend Pamela Courson for months before he even touched the shit.As the stroy goes the main reasonhe started doing Herion in the first place was to get back at her for cheating on him.He started using it then on after with her and became addicted. His girl friend was a hard core Junkie long before Jim. Jim was using needles like it or not becasue back in the late 60's and early 70's that was the only way to use Herion. Please go read a little about Jim before you post saying my post are lies !!!!!! Most reports on Jims death go like this He was suffering from terrable pains in his stomach and abdomen for months leading up to the OD which he used Herion to soothe the pain he was in. The pains were proably caused buy a bad liver or any other aliments that come from Heavy Drinking ? The weeks leading up to his death he was coughing up and throwing up blood real bad and was having terrable stomach pains that were getting worse and worse and instead of going to a doctor he was using more and more Herion ease his pain.anyways the day/night of the OD he and his Girlfrind had a terrable fight at a restaurant from iwitness reports,Jim was also seen buy people to be drinking wine and Wiskey very heavly that day after the fight. Later that night he got back together with his girl friend and made up with her they went to a movie together Death Valley I think it was called or something like that,when they went back to the hotel room its is thought they Bolth Shoot up Herion they just bought from the streets, Jim told his girl frind he was going to take a hot bath, She eneed up nooding out and woke up thart Morning to Jim Dead in the Bath Tub some say he shoot up even more dope in the bath and this killed him some reports I have read say the needle was still in his arm and she took it out and got rid of all the evidence of Herion use.? But Who knows others reports say he was parting that night in a club and was moved into the tub after he died in another room ? The bottom line is 99.9% of all Doctors who have looked at the case think the Death was from a lethal Mixture of Alchool and Herion. and that is what I tend to think also ? But the real cause will never be known though.
     
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