Chinese Zoos...

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  1. lune

    lune Senior Member

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  2. Fatmankev

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    That is miserably appalling.

    I don't know how anyone could be that cruel to animals. That entire article was sick.

    The pictures were just as twisted.

    Some people don't deserve to be alive.
     
  3. JP-

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    I don't understand how something like that could even exist.
     
  4. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    Yea I better not watch that video.. I know how terrible they treat their animals over there..
    :(
     
  5. JP-

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    Hah, it wasn't a video, just some pictures, but still, I wouldn't recommend clicking if you dislike animal cruelty.
     
  6. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    yea I won't look at pics either. :( But thanks for warning me.
     
  7. hippieatheart

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    i don't think i can look at the pictures.... i want to though
    but i know it'll bother me too bad
     
  8. lune

    lune Senior Member

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    Just a heads up, the pictures aren't that bad at all, the article was very well done.
     
  9. lune

    lune Senior Member

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    Here's the text for those that don't want to click the link:

    The smiling children giggled as they patted the young goat on its head and tickled it behind the ears.
    Some of the more boisterous ones tried to clamber onto the animal's back but were soon shaken off with a quick wiggle of its bottom.

    It could have been a happy scene from a family zoo anywhere in the world but for what happened next.

    A man hoisted up the goat and nonchalantly threw it over a wall into a pit full of hungry lions. The poor goat tried to run for its life, but it didn't stand a chance. The lions quickly surrounded it and started tearing at its flesh.

    "Oohs" and "aahs" filled the air as the children watched the goat being ripped limb from limb. Some started to clap silently with a look of wonder in their eyes.

    The scenes witnessed at Badaltearing Safari Park in China are rapidly becoming a normal day out for many Chinese families.

    Baying crowds now gather in zoos across the country to watch animals being torn to pieces by lions and tigers.

    Just an hour's drive from the main Olympic attractions in Beijing, Badaling is in many ways a typical Chinese zoo.

    Next to the main slaughter arena is a restaurant where families can dine on braised dog while watching cows and goats being disembowelled by lions.

    The zoo also encourages visitors to "fish" for lions using live chickens as bait. For just £2, giggling visitors tie terrified chickens onto bamboo rods and dangle them in front of the lions, just as a cat owner might tease their pet with a toy.

    During one visit, a woman managed to taunt the big cats with a petrified chicken for five minutes before a lion managed to grab the bird in its jaws.

    The crowd then applauded as the bird flapped its wings pathetically in a futile bid to escape. The lion eventually grew bored and crushed the terrified creature to death.

    The tourists were then herded onto buses and driven through the lions' compound to watch an equally cruel spectacle. The buses have specially designed chutes down which you can push live chickens and watch as they are torn to shreds.

    Once again, children are encouraged to take part in the slaughter.
    "It's almost a form of child abuse," says Carol McKenna of the OneVoice animal welfare group. "The cruelty of Chinese zoos is disgusting, but think of the impact on the children watching it. What kind of future is there for China if its children think this kind of cruelty is normal?

    "In China, if you love animals you want to kill yourself every day out of despair."

    But the cruelty of Badaling doesn't stop with animals apart. For those who can still stomach it, the zoo has numerous traumatised animals to gawp at.

    A pair of endangered moon bears with rusting steel nose rings are chained up in cages so small that they cannot even turn around.

    One has clearly gone mad and spends most of its time shaking its head and bashing into the walls of its prison.

    There are numerous other creatures, including tigers, which also appear to have been driven insane by captivity. Predictably, they are kept in cramped, filthy conditions.

    !Zoos like this make me want to boycott everything Chinese," says Emma Milne, star of the BBC's Vets In Practice.

    "I'd like to rip out everything in my house that's made in China. I have big problems with their culture.

    "If you enjoy watching an animal die then that's a sad and disgusting reflection on you.

    "Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised by their behaviour towards animals, as the value of human life is so low in China."

    East of Badaling lies the equally horrific Qingdao zoo. Here, visitors can take part in China's latest craze — tortoise baiting.

    Simply put, Chinese families now gather in zoos to hurl coins at tortoises.

    Legend has it that if you hit a tortoise on the head with a coin and make a wish, then your heart's desire will come true. It's the Chinese equivalent of a village wishing well.

    To feed this craze, tortoises are kept in barbaric conditions inside small bare rooms.

    When giggling tourists begin hurling coins at them, they desperately try to protect themselves by withdrawing into their shells.

    But Chinese zoo keepers have discovered a way round this: they wrap elastic bands around the animals' necks to stop them retracting their heads.

    "Tortoises aren't exactly fleet of foot and can't run away," says Carol McKenna.

    "It's monstrous that people hurl coins at the tortoises, but strapping their heads down with elastic bands so they can't hide is even more disgusting.

    "Because tortoises can't scream, people assume they don't suffer. But they do. I can't bear to think what it must be like to live in a tiny cell and have people hurl coins at you all day long."

    Even worse is in store for the animals of Xiongsen Bear and Tiger Mountain Village near Guilin in south-east China.

    Here, live cows are fed to tigers to amuse cheering crowds. During a recent visit, I watched in horror as a young cow was stalked and caught. Its screams and cries filled the air as it struggled to escape.

    A wild tiger would dispatch its prey within moments, but these beasts' natural killing skills have been blunted by years of living in tiny cages.

    The tiger tried to kill — tearing and biting at the cow's body in a pathetic looking frenzy — but it simply didn't know how.

    Eventually, the keepers broke up the contest and slaughtered the cow themselves, much to the disappointment of the crowd.

    Although the live killing exhibition was undoubtedly depressing, an equally disturbing sight lay around the corner: the "animal parade".

    Judging by the rest of the operation, the unseen training methods are unlikely to be humane, but what visitors view is bad enough.

    Tigers, bears and monkeys perform in a degrading "entertainment". Bears wear dresses, balance on balls and not only ride bicycles but mount horses too.

    The showpiece is a bear riding a bike on a high wire above a parade of tigers, monkeys and trumpet-playing bears.

    Astonishingly, the zoo also sells tiger meat and wine produced from big cats kept in battery-style cages.

    Tiger meat is eaten widely in China and the wine, made from the crushed bones of the animals, is a popular drink.

    Although it is illegal, the zoo is quite open about its activities. In fact, it boasts of having 140 dead tigers in freezers ready for the plate.

    In the restaurant, visitors can dine on strips of stir-fried tiger with ginger and Chinese vegetables. Also on the menu are tiger soup and a spicy red curry made with tenderised strips of big cat.

    And if all that isn't enough, you can dine on lion steaks, bear's paw, crocodile and several different species of snake.

    "Discerning" visitors can wash it all down with a glass or two of vintage wine made from the bones of Siberian tigers.

    The wine is made from the 1,300 or so tigers reared on the premises. The restaurant is a favourite with Chinese Communist Party officials who often pop down from Beijing for the weekend.

    China's zoos claim to be centres for education and conservation. Without them, they say, many species would become extinct.

    This is clearly a fig leaf and some would call it a simple lie. Many are no better than "freak shows" from the middle ages and some are no different to the bloody tournaments of ancient Rome.

    "It's farcical to claim that these zoos are educational," says Emma Milne.

    "How can you learn anything about wild animals by watching them pace up and down inside a cage? You could learn far more from a David Attenborough documentary."

    However pitiful the conditions might be in China's zoos, there are a few glimmers of hope.

    It is now becoming fashionable to own pets in China. The hope is that a love for pets will translate into a desire to help animals in general. This does appear to be happening, albeit slowly.

    One recent MORI opinion poll discovered that 90 per cent of Chinese people thought they had "a moral duty to minimise animal suffering". Around 75 per cent felt that the law should be changed to minimise animal suffering as much as possible.

    In 2004, Beijing proposed animal welfare legislation which stipulated that "no one should harass, mistreat or hurt animals". It would also have banned animal fights and live feeding shows.

    The laws would have been a huge step forward. But the proposals were scrapped following stiff opposition from vested interests and those who felt China had more pressing concerns.

    And this is the central problem for animal welfare in China: its ruling elite is brutally repressive and cares little for animals.

    Centuries of rule by tyrannical emperors and bloody dictators have all but eradicated the Buddhist and Confucian respect for life and nature.

    As a result, welfare groups are urging people not to go to Chinese zoos if they should visit the Olympics, as virtually every single one inflicts terrible suffering on its animals

    "They should tell the Chinese Embassy why they are refusing to visit these zoos,' says Carol McKenna of OneVoice.

    "If a nation is great enough to host the Olympic Games then it is great enough to be able to protect its animals."
     
  10. hippieatheart

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    i ended up looking at it and looking at the pictures
    the pictures weren't as bad as reading the article. i can't believe people do this shit to animals.. it disturbs me very much and makes me so upset
     
  11. Fatmankev

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    Yeah, it's more of the idea behind the pictures; the pictures themselves are not extremely graphic. But this is just plain awful.
     
  12. skierdood

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    I dont really wanna sound like the mean animal abuser here because in fact I have a great love for animals of all sorts. But lions are accustomed to hunting down animals in the wild thats just kinda how they do things, its not a pretty sight but if you watch the discovery channel they will show you the same things that happened at that zoo. It kinda is a bit odd that they show it in front of little children and such but it is how nature works out in the wild.

    The only thing I really dissagreed with was dangling chickens from bamboo poles that is cruel as all hell.
     
  13. st. stephen

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    u just have to wonder how one culture can be so absolutely differnt from another one.
     
  14. jusdino4it

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    Im not sure why people think that only forign countries treat animals inhumainly and that our "great and civilized" country is above all of that kind of stuff. I mean at least a lion eating a goat or chicken is natural. I mean the fact of the mater is, that thats the circle of life. Yes its fucked up that they are doing it in front of kids and tourturing chickens, but what you see with the lion eating the goat is just part of nature. Think about this or this or this next time you put on makeup, take a pill, or consider our country for humane than any other. Its not just china and third world nations that torture animals. The majority of it happens right here in the good old US of A.
     
  15. 40oz and chronic

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    ever think those animals deserved it?
    maybe it's a form of reincarnation. if your a "sinner" then your going to "hell". well, maybe reincarnating as a defenseless animal who is tortured until it dies is part of your "hell" until you die again. maybe all those people running these inhumane shows and prisons are reincarnated as one of those animals being treated as he treated them. karma is just one big circle.
    just a theory of course.
     
  16. jusdino4it

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    Yeah....or not.
     
  17. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    probably not..
     
  18. st. stephen

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    u have to realize this goes on every where, not just china, not just america, but everywhere. we practically torture animals before we process them for food, but since we eat them does that make what we are doing only a "part of nature"?
     
  19. jusdino4it

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    Did you not read my fucking post? Are you an idiot? :dupe: The whole point that i was making was that it dosent just happen in china but all over the world. I was telling people to recongnize that that article was not even describbing somthing that bad in comparison. And dont say "we eat them." Speak for your self. I would never support that industry. And no its not "part of nature." There is a difference between hunting, and this
     
  20. infested_sinner

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    the part with the turtles is just fucked up. i mean it all is but thats just horrible.
    wtf is the matter with those people
     
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