The year 3007. Post your thoughts!

I think we will all be ghosts, locked up in modified FM radios, in a giant prison ship. The ship will be on a 5000 year journey back to the alien homeworld.

 

in 3007 energy will not be generated nor transportation propelled, by the use of combustion. those ARE two things that are incompatable with each other, the continued over reliance on combustion in any form, and the continued existence of our species.

it is of course NOT a foregone conclusion wither it will be greed or survival that will win out over the other. a choice it is and a choice it remains. by 2017 though, certainly by 2107, the outcome of THAT uncertainty WILL have been decided.

then by 3007 well that's, 900 years of history. does anyone today remember what the life or death end of the world issues of the year 1100 might have been?

i'm pretty sure i don't. i know niether adam smith nor carl marx had been born yet though. and anything with wheels on it was pulled by some sort of life form, and most people didn't either walked, or on those rare occasions they went anywhere other then by walking, they rode on some sort of life form directly.

and we lived in a world that was more underpopulated then over populated. and that had a very dramatic effect on differences in cultural expectations.

3007 is a long time. long enough to play with a bit, without anyone being able to say difinatively can't or has to.

so there's no reason it couldn't be my dream of a green world, with little trains and not too many people. without very many paved roads, or maintainence of them. computers and solar cells and windmills. using tecnology to live closer to nature and in harmony with it and to be creative with, what tecnology there is being neat and clean and succinct.

because that's the only way we'll be able to be there at all.
oil, coal and fissionables will be either gone or no longer extracted.

if there is money, plexiglass coins of real intrinsic worth because of oil having become more rare and precious then gold. but mostly i think, symbolic value economics having become obsolete too.

we may be out in space, or we may not, but either way, we will be at much greater peace with our earth, or, as some insist, we won't be.

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there will be no 3007. we will all be dead.

 

I think it will be kind of like Star Wars if ya ask me.

 

well yes, no individual life form currently occupied by a creative awairness on planet earth in the year that is called 2008, will be a functional entity a thousand years later. nor will the calendar currently dominant still be in use, rather one that started in 1844 of this one, making "3007" = the year 1156 b.e.

none the less, there may or may not be decendents, even recognizably decendents, of what is currently earth's 'human' species.

there's nothing 'pre-ordained' about the many choices between now and then and the consiquences of them at all.

right now, the choice is between ecotopia, or the collective mass suicide consiquent to rejecting it out of hand, but it IS STILL A CHOICE, dammit!

and all the deniers of that choice are contributing to the likelyhood of that mass suicide. likelyhood; NOT "inevitability".

but again, that IS sufficiently far away to play with and fantasize to our heart's content.

and even if it isn't us, or this planet in this solar system, there will certainly be someone somewhere. many someones many somewheres, reguardless.

and somewhere, even as elsewhere there is now, there will be a world, or many worlds, of lush forests and little people sized trains. worlds not overpopulated, where people are living in harmony with nature.

and by people i DO mean, creative awairenessess occupying tangable physical life forms, reguardless of how much or how little they resemble the current human life form of planet earth.

but as for on planet earth, yes i still expect there will be something rather a great deal like us, to look at, living in ways signifigantly different then those common today, or at any single particular time past.

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All scientific theories of today will be completely debunked and be replaced with new theories.

 

World? What world? The farthest the Un has predicted the world population is 2050. That number 9,075,000,000. A 50% increase in 43 years. Enough said.

 

as if nothing ever reversed itself?

'fate' is still a freekin copout and what becomes of us is still a collective choice.

yes, population will have IMploded long before then, IF we are still here then, but the only way this 'world' is going to end in any time in the next TEN THOUSAND years, or even then, is if we destroy it with our own hands.

YES there IS a VERY REAL DANGER of our doing so. but it IS still a CHOICE. the choice between 'ecotopia' or collective suicide. and we ARE perfectly capable of NOT choosing collective mass suicide.

yes the polar ice caps will probably be dissappearing entirely every summer by 2012, but we CAN stop using combustion to generate energy and propell transportation, AND WITHOUT having to give up transportation or other infrastructure tecnologies nor the comfort zones people are unwilling to. it just takes other ways of doing things then those which bring great wealth to the few at the expense of the many. ways which mean using different tecnologies then we're used to. but not pie in the sky tecnologies we don't have yet, but rather ones we do and have had an proven, many for centuries or even millinium.

yes we do need to drasticly reduce birthrates also if we don't want nature to do it for us the hard way. but we CAN do that also. without bias or exception, and starting with the largest, not smallest and least powerful population segments either. or rather totally nonselectively with everyone.

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Im guessing the world will be a quiet place with no humans.

 

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humans won't be so noisy

 

our technology has evolved at such a phenomenal pace in the past 100 years, why would we not be able to have flying cars in 1000 years time??

 

i see a much reduced human population rediscouvering the joys and wonders of a reforested and rediversified land surface. i do see gravity modulation tecnology very possibly having been discouvered, conventionalized and available. emergency vehicules will almost entirely be using this tecnology, and little open air platforms you hang onto for dear life will zipping arround on them will be great fun, and even space going winnabagos, called singleships, and also used as life rafts on cargo spaceships.

but most travel will be by guideway based public transport simply to enjoy the scenery. getting someplace in a hurry, might be done by teleportation, but needing to be in a hurry will be something of the past, that where and how most people live will simply have outgrown.

not that people will be all laying arround doing nothing either. creating and exploring will simply be too much fun to entirely ignore. most people will be doing something because most people enjoy doing something more then people today try to pretend they would enjoy enforced idleness.

but even creating and maintaining the neccessary infrastucture won't mean stress, anxiety, or haveing to be in a damd hurry.

and whatever form transportation takes, one thing you CAN count on by then, is it won't be propelled by any form of burning anything. oil, coal and even fissionables, will have long since been exausted, or at least have become too rare and valuable to merely be burned.

hydrocarbon polymers will have become so rare and valuable that plexiglass will be like gold as a standard for coinage. where there even is coinage, or even the concept of symbolic value.

wealth will be measured instead, by what you can do creatively with tecnology, in an overriding context of environmental harmony.

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So we wont have flying cars but the human race will have gone through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution in 1000 years. Nope. I dont think there will be humans. Too bad. More in new thread.

 

that sounds to me like a pouting: "if we can't get away with screwing everything up forever we'll just all throw a temper tantrum and kill everyone whether they agree to die or not."

granted people collectively can be pretty damd dumb, but not all of them stay that way for ever either.

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In the year 3000, we will all have evolved into human hybrids with mice dna etc. We will live off cheese and drive fast sportscars with chrome doors and mp34 players.

 

payback time, the earth has had enough of our greedyness, most of us are (people) dead, earth did have a lot floods and catastrophe, as a healing... and, those who remain, of the humans, are very few and very gentle and very evolved, but there are not only earthlings, but also beings from other systems, and it is a time of learning to communicate universally. technique in general is seen as totally outdated, now there is the focus of learning to communicate beyond words, and to use one own capacities, not some technical thing. we learn to realize that life is not an illusion... but reality is hidden, and those who dare to see it as it is, will evolve (today the dreamers have succeded, but tomorow the we'll realize the dreams were not that good. we will not live in a dream ,as we do today)

 

The rampant growth of capitalism has raped the Earth of practically all its natural resources, and greater and greater technology is implemented as a life support system.

Meanwhile, everyone is in denial of reality and too high on thoughtlessness to make any changes that truly matter.

That's one way to look at it.

 

that is today. a day that won't, can't last, more then a few decades, because the air we breathe isn't just there, it comes from living plants that are part of and depend upon the web of life.

a thousand years from now, todays conditions will be forgotten and completely hard to even imagine to anyone living then. they just won't be able to believe it was even possible for anyone ever to have lived the was we are living now.

i don't mean that as a matter of being better or worse off tecnologically. they'll have tecnologies we have yet to even dream of. but the'll all be powered cleanly and sustainably.

that is of course, IF there IS anyone here. but i'm convinced it is very possible, that under the pressure of survival, we WILL have cleaned up our act, and thus enabled ourselves to have survived by doing so.

some concatination of events, not neccessarily traumatic or spectacular in any way in and of themselves seperately, will have chainged all or most of that.

at first, survival, immediately after this takes place, and it will be over a number of years, if not decades that it does, might not be as easy as we take for granted now. but even that is not cast in stone as what and how will happen between now and then.

this concatination of events and conditions will have taken place during the remaining decades of THIS CENTURY, or at most within two or three of it.

in time, perhapse a few centuries later, life will settle down to a normality, that by today's standards might seem 'ecotopian'. it certainly won't be reguarded that way though. rather as simply everyday life. as everyday life has always been reguarded as everyday life, all the many forms that has taken. and there are very many it already has, just as unimaginable to experience as that of our far future will have to be.

wars will indeed actually no longer exist. whether because there are no longer us to fight them or no longer nations as we know them today to raise armies or what, but a kind of universal abundance in which poverty and wealth will have become meaningless will prevail.

agian this will probably not be do to idiology, or at least no thanks to any idiologies dominant today.

people will live in ways that will indeed be worth looking forward to, THAT far ahead, whatever comes between now and then.

i have seen that world in my dreams and lived on others like it in my previous lives. earth (2008) is simply going through a stage, analagous to late childhood/early adolescence, most of the rest of the universe has already lived through and grown beyond.

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I know.