is art pointless?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by zen_arcade, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    there really is no point for anything, and searching for one will only make you go insane
    whats the point to a five year old child starving in africa, his parents dead of aids?
    there's no point, and theres certainly no point in looking for the point
    whats the point of a fourteen year old girl having to prostitute herself in russia?
    what's the point of a thirty something dying in a cubical in suburban america?
     
  2. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    Art can be functional, but you could argue that it's all pointless, since it doesn't actually do anything. A lot of artists would consider art an end in itself, whether it pays the bills or not.

    We give it meaning, but meaning is not inherent. Do we need new things to give meaning to, in a world where we are far from understanding what already exists? Probably not. But we make them anyway.
     
  3. slave

    slave Member

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    You shouldn't be confused girl but anyway if you are clear your mind and than think it all over agan
     
  4. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    well I've expressed my opinion, several times.. I think that's it!
     
  5. slave

    slave Member

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    They suffer and art it is not suffering, but anyway I belive in karma so I think that sufering has a point because they suffer because thay did something bad in their past lifes, so they learn by suffering not by spiritual education, and when I say THEY I mean them as souls and as immortal beeings.
     
  6. slave

    slave Member

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    Your opinion is your opinion I'm noone to say is it right or not I'm just descuseing it and telling my opinion:)
     
  7. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    some art involves suffering, performance art for example
    chris burden is a performance artist that crucified himself to a vw bug, in the name of art
    art is suffering in alot of ways
     
  8. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    This thread is pointless.
     
  9. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    Art is the point.
     
  10. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    i think the purpose of art is mostly decided within the artist.. for starters.

    the best art was probably created with some serious pain or happiness- some revelation unraveled in the deepest corners of the heart when it feels major emotion. real art is daring- it's a statement of the self... individuality, whatever.. how can that not have any significance at all? if not atleast to the artist?

    and i don't think art is pointless. because the real kind always satisfies a specific moment in time- where it was set to complete a thought or emotion... that special coincedence could make the difference of a lifetime.
     
  11. rainbowedskylover

    rainbowedskylover Senior Member

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    but those are just examples, there also are pieces of art that involve pure extacy. why do you think jimi hendrix looks the way he looks when he's jamming around...
     
  12. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    drugs?
     
  13. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    For me art has beauty and can provide inspiration.

    So it does have value to me.
     
  14. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    art is the point of existence. DEFINING art, is pointless.

    =^^=
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  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I agree with themnax.


    I can't stand when people refer to some work as amateuristic (which it may be, that's not the point) and not art while their work looks even more amateuristic (like some abstract work for example), but is art since they are 'artists'. Horrible! Some people are also trying to make art instead of something that is just good. Nothing wrong with exploring the boundaries, but please.. Art is sometimes overvalued but it's far from pointless.
     
  16. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Art is the inspiration in which we draw the meaning of life.

    When a cash value is assigned to art, we now say some art is better than others... and in such an event defeat the purpose of art itself. The greatest artists were not rich because they did not paint someone else's picture as they demanded.

    Art is in fact the only meaningful persuit... it seeks to answer the unanswerable in the most broad sense... a great artist being as in touch with the world as any other.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It's not as simple as that. Not all art is made in pursue of answers. Some of the artists who kind of did weren't in touch with the world at all, but on the contrary, totally lost. And some of the greatest artists were rich. Art is a very broad thing and it's rather pointless to define at times.
     
  18. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Ahh, but this is my point.

    Art comes from inspiration... the most basic idea of crushing a berry on a wall to draw a bull is drawing from the same inspiration that makes a kid draw someone getting their head chopped off with a sword. The correlation itself is what makes us human... no matter the art composed, its composition is a mental image of its composer. A thought that is the inspiration in which we draw the meaning of life.

    For it to make sense, you have to view art wholistically... each smiley face contributing to the incredible gallery that is thought.
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Hm, I've lost you after the inspiration part. Is the meaning of life always involved? Some painters tried to paint as realistic as possible, wasn't that just their purpose?
     
  20. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    "For it to make sense, you have to view art wholistically... each smiley face contributing to the incredible gallery that is thought."

    The meaning of life may not be the focus, but the purpose for art is the meaning of life... smiley face, sistene chapel, grateful dead, ferrari... etc etc.

    To understand the world as art is to understand why we are here. That is to say, the meaning of life itself is a thought that may only arrive by looking at the world through the eyes of an artist.
     

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