Im sorry but am I the only one that thinks talking about a revolution on a public forum is sketchy as fuck. Isnt starting a revolution treason or something?
i didn't take this as a discussion about a revolution. i think it was more an observation on self preservation being aware that governments don't always have the people's best interest in mind--that's all. the fact that you are so afraid that an innocent discussion is "treason"--my god you sounded so afraid--that proves the point at how much fear a government is dumping into your conciousness. do you live in the U.S.A? because i'm in canada and i didn't have the same reaction as you. i live in a country were an entire province keeps trying to seperate--talk about treason! and what happens to the seperatists? they become an official party and play the politic game. in canada revolutionaries can play the political game (like the marijuana party--although their leader got hi-jacked and our gov't happily allowed it with a "good riddance" vibe) anyway--the system needs changing--if you read the what's wrong with society thread you'll hear much of the same talk. its not treason or revolution--its positive change done in a healthy and positive way. i believe having high vibration people in important political posts is a great start.
Yes I do live in the USA and I am rightfully scared of my government. Cause they are a bunch of dumbfucks that dont give a shit about there people. I am pretty sure that if they even had a minute thought that there was someone trying to start a revolution they would be "neutralized" soon after. I want a new government just as much as the next guy but at this point in my life I dont really want to try to fight the one that is in place.
no need to fight....change will come on its own. isn't this bush's last year anyway? when are elections? i could tell from your post that you were american--i feel sad for you. i pray change soon!!!
I got pursued once about my taxes by a government department over 50 miles and I had been claiming income support and living on a boat in a muddy creek, I didnt owe them a penny, but that didnt stop them sending me summons after summons, demand after demand and after I finally blew my lid at them on their answer-phone saying I would come down their and smash the place the up along with the person doing it to me they said hey, we're sorry, your account balance is zero and I mellowed out and said thank you, what does it take to make you arseholes stop, one month later I got another demand from the same department.... Returned to sender, no forwarding address and now it's finally stopped! But I paid countless court costs and the mental strain of waking up to find another abusive threatening letter! The government are arseholes, one hand dosnt know what the other hand is doing!
I heard from a hippy that people use to put lsd on pay phones to cause random people to trip. Idk if it worked or if thats true, but if it was that would suck cause you wouldn't know it's coming or anything. J.C
why don't one of you guys take it upon yourselves. i am sure if you put your mind to it you could figure out a way. your best bet would be to gain access to a water treatment plant and put a very large amount of LSD into the water. when we consider that any water treatment plant would be very difficult to gain access to and how unlikely it is that any of you have enough money to buy enough LSD we realize how unlikely it is that this would ever happen and why it hasn't happened yet. maybe you guys can send some letters to the taliban to share with them your ideas. if you thought LSD has a bad reputation now, if this was to happen you wouldn't be able to find LSD anywhere and if you did find some the price would be through the roof.
also doesnt regular tap water have a certain amount of chlorine in it? which would destroy alot of the LSD if not all?
absolutely not! at least not in my oppinion. i don't even believe 'combat' is the right thing in terms of dealing with our governments. i'd rather see gov't posts occupied by high vibration people.
Im just afraid that the president holds too much power and the direction were headed can't be corrected with out drastic change. Our government certianly isn't in any position to change much at all, except which country it attacks next.
the collective conciousness is far more powerful than any one person or government or system. have hope and think well--there is ALWAYS a solution. it may not come in the manner we expect or even want...but it will come!
Though I think dosing someone without their knowledge is a terrible idea, I can't help but think that all these warmongers in the world may have learned a thing or two about respect for the planet and the fragile life on it had they dosed on some good LSD instead of being cokeheads, alcoholics, or the most dangerous of them all: close-minded religious nuts!
I think this needs some more light though. In this country the congress has the power to coin and print money, not the executive branch or the fed. Only the congress has the power to declare war and ratify treaties. So the only ones who can stop the mess where in are congressmen. LSD is a very feasible way to target large groups such as congress to fear so deeply that they cannot continue to exploit the America citizens in such a horrific manner. There is good and bad terrorism, there is lethal and non lethal, means to make someone fear more then money or guns could ever reach. When even your consciousness is threatened to the very core you have a tendency to bend to the will of someone else. The congress must bend to the will of the people, not the banks, or there will be grave consequences for this gangsters in disguise.
actually, it's been done a decent amount. for instance, i believe in the 1972 presidential campaign, which was far outside the scope of MK-ULTRA (which was almost surely defunct at that point anyway, though afaik there is no definite date given on the program being dissolved)
This is very true I was just bringing up the sensitivity to LSD we all share and the repercussions of this weakness. After long contemplation just as MK ULTRA realized. LSD was too unpredictable to be used for mind control or political agenda. Try as you might LSD has its own agenda. Many of my answers about these questions are clear now. LSD as a tool for understaing the mind undoubted. As a weapon of governments or of defense like the venom of the rattlesnake when threatened may strike back. I simply brought up the discussion to see everyone's side on this topic. I know people who have been dosed or dose others but it shows you how scary the idea is and why LSD is so illegal. I feel it should be legal for clinical trials with consenting patients but as someone stated it before to unwillingly be dosed could be on the same level as murder in some philosophical seances. I have not and never will dose anyone unwillingly I just bring up wild ideas because my mind runs with them and no better place to express my mind then here, thanks
You waited 4 years to reply . . . lol . . . i don't think stalk even comes to these forums anymore Even in the context of chemical warfare LSD is a poor choice of molecule for incapacitation or anything like that. There are much better options like BZ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate