Jon Stewart and "Liberal Fascism"

Discussion in 'The Media' started by 911wasaninsidejob, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. 911wasaninsidejob

    911wasaninsidejob Member

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    Did anyone else Watch the Daily Show where Jon Stewart Interviewed the Author of "Liberal Fascism"?

    He RIPPED the guy apart, I thought Jon Stewart was ridiculously unfair with the author when the author had some great points.

    Does anyone out there actually believe all fascists are right wing?

    They shouldn't.

    I believe Hillary Clinton is MUCH more fascistic than a lot of republicans and even some of the republican contenders.
     
  2. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    ugh, Jonah Goldberg...
     
  3. 911wasaninsidejob

    911wasaninsidejob Member

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    I'm not familiar with the Author, I could be wrong and he could be a prick. But don't you think he should have the right to express his opinions instead of constantly being interrupted by Jon Stewart.

    I believe there are just as many "Liberal" fascists as there are "Conservative" or "Right Wing" fascists.
     
  4. ~Thought_Process~

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    glenn beck was about to have him come stay at his house so they could right books all night.. alot of the shit is true glen beck is outside of special interests he is a good host that fake news make fun of shit is kinda gay neways
     
  5. whatshappenin23

    whatshappenin23 Banned

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    dude the guy is a fucking moron...from what I heard he didn't make any good points. His whole premise for that book is childish. Hes not calling liberals faschist because they actually are, only because he wants to deflect away from conservative faschism...its like if a skinny kid says "you're fat" to a fat kid and the fat kid says the same damn thing back. NICE TRY!

    Apparently he asserts in his book that Organic foods are fascist because they were big in nazi germany, and Jon Stewart says thats like saying mustaches are fascist because hitler had one.

    Glenn Beck seems like an honest guy to me. But I don't care for him one bit. But if the "fake news shit is gay" then that means most ALL news is, because most every network is full of shit. We have a war, and an upcoming election and I hear more about britney spears then I do anything else, even on CNN. For Christ sake, Larry King would have nothing to say if it wasn't for Britney Spears and Im sick of hearing shit like that on news channels. Don't get me started on Fox, or people like Nancy Grace. News is shit. Period. They spin everything before you even have a chance to figure it out for yourself. Fuck them. So yea, even though I don't agree with most of what glenn beck says I think hes one of the better dudes on TV.

    As far as the liberal fascism...that guy can go fuck himself.
     
  6. whatshappenin23

    whatshappenin23 Banned

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    You think Hillary Clinton is fascist?? I think you better go look that word up in a dictionary before you go using it about Hillary Clinton. She is about individual rights (for all individuals) tolerance and progress. Fascism is about military, the state, nationalism, fuck everyone else, and if you don't do it like we tell you to fuck you...Yea I know, Im no Webster. But like I said go look it up. If you still think Hillary Clinton is facsist PLEASE tell me why
     
  7. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

    Strawberry_Fields_Fo RN

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    Hillary's not a fascist, she's just spineless, easily paid off by special interest, and desperate to be in power. She fought for health care rights in the 90s....until Big Pharma paid her to shut up. She voted FOR the war...then back tracked when it became politically inconvenient. She's not fascist--she's just patriarchy in women's clothing.
     
  8. 911wasaninsidejob

    911wasaninsidejob Member

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    Hillary Clinton has a lot of people fooled about who she is. She acts and panders to liberals and leftists in this country, but it's all rhetoric. The Clintons are great friends with the Bush Family, and some of Hillary's views towards Iran are more militaristic and war-mongering than even the Bush Administration!

    Do you know that Hillary has gotten the majority of Defense Contractor donations out of all the candidates running for office in 2008?

    Do you know Rupert Murdoch and Fox News are also contributing money to her campaign?

    She's funding the war at every turn!

    Just because she supports abortion, liberals automatically love her, but she's actually a terrible person just like her husband. Google Vince Foster if you ever get the chance.

    She Voted for The Military Commissions Act of 2006, The Patriot Act, and countless other bills allowing the wiretapping and stripping of Americans Civil liberties countless times.

    She IS an elite fascist, just like Bush, Just like Dick Cheney...

    Dude, it's 2008, haven't you realized that the "parties" are nothing more than two wrestlers fighting each other in the World Wrestling Federation? They put on a show for the American people, but at the end of the day, they get paid by the same organization and simply answer to what the guy paying them wants, not what they or the viewers want.
     
  9. whatshappenin23

    whatshappenin23 Banned

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    I dont believe everything I read on internet blogs. I hope you check your sources
     
  10. 911wasaninsidejob

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  12. LionessOfZion

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    lol Hillary... you can tell she's lying when her lips are moving. U godda watch her! lol
     
  13. whatshappenin23

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    Yea I know about her and Murdoch. No good. Shes not getting my vote, anyhow. But I don't consider her a militant fascist, and I don't think her and Bill are allied with the Bushes. Obama gets my vote.
     
  14. SunLion

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    Hilary never voted for the war. In fact, the vote usually referred to as a "pro war vote" was actually a piece of legislation designed specifically to prevent the war. It would have, if we didn't have a subhuman freakin' monster in the White House.
     
  15. 911wasaninsidejob

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    She voted for a resolution to allow the use of force in Iraq....that's a vote for the war.
     
  16. st. stephen

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    ummm your aware fascism was started by a man who hunted and murdered socialists? why the fuck open your mouth...
     
  17. 911wasaninsidejob

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    Why open my mouth? Because we don't live under fascism and I have the right to freedom of speech.

    Fascism is on both sides of the spectrum. hardcore Right Wing=Concentration Camps and Dictators, hardcore Left=Concentration camps and dictators.
     
  18. 911wasaninsidejob

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    Also, do you know what NAZI stands for?

    National Socialist German Workers' Party?
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I have no doubt that many of those who identify themselves with today's neoconservative right-wing are largely fascist, ideologically speaking. However, HISTORICALLY speaking, the biggest fascists have always been the socialists and communists. (I should also mention that the neoconservative movement originated from the Left -- hence the term neo-conservative -- as many of the movement's founding members -- ie. Irving Kristol -- were former leftists and admitedly neo-Trotskyites.) You have to ask yourself why we are always hearing about the atrocities of Hitler (which were truly awful), but we never (or very rarely) hear about those committed under people such as Stalin and Mao, who killed FAR more people.

    I would also consider many of the ideological simpletons and outright dupes that make up today's new or "progressive" left (which is quite simply Marxism veiled) to be just as fascistic ideologically as the fundamentalist right wingers the bleeding hearts condemn. BOTH want to impose THEIR way on each other.

    So you have extremism and hatred on both sides, and this extremism and hatred ALWAYS manifests itself in the same way, no matter what you decide to call it.

    Children today are indoctrinated to believe that the fascism of Hitler was at the opposite end of the ideological spectrum as the Communism of Stalin, but they both produced the same outcome, only that far more people died under Communism than under Hitler and Mussolini.

    We should also identify what fascism really is. There are really two ways of looking at it; one being as an ideology, and the other being a system of control in which the corporations merge with the state. This is what Mussolini said would better be referred to as CORPORATISM. I would say both exist today, and they are not simply limited to one party or grouping.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Hillary Clinton is controlled by corporate interests, so how is she NOT a fascist? She might claim to be for a lot of things that sound good when you hear them, but it's common knowledge to most people that politicians are expert liars. (Just look at her husband!) That's why they're politicians. They can lie and they have no remorse about screwing people over to achieve their own ends. Hillary is a proven liar and as corrupt as they come. So is her deviant, coke-smuggling, rapist husband. Even still, she is just a puppet to her puppetmasters, who are the ones really calling the shots.

    And I wouldn't say fascism is about nationalism. It may have been in the past, but the war being waged by the globalists is being waged AGAINST nationalism. These people are globalists, or as I call them, INTERNATIONALISTS, and they want a communistic world government WITHOUT nation states, which will no doubt be fascistic in nature and make Nazi Germany look like a picnic by comparison.
     

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