Three More Days Of Peace And Music, Woodstock '09 (merged thread)

I never heard about that! Do tell?

 

Woodstock '99 was not held in Bethel. I think it was on a former Air Force base and it was not organized by Lang. $4 water and $15 bags of ice. NO original '69 performers. It had nothing to do with '69.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_99

 

Here's a link with info on the '89 festival.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_%2789

 

They can't recreate Woodstock. But if they could make something as beautiful, if they could get the beautiful people (who don't want to cause trouble) to come, and if they could be able to safely do psychedelics and pot (cuz it wouldn't be the same without 'em) then it might work.
I sure hope so. I hear Goodstock was good. My sis and I were going to go but we couldn't. I hear it was peaceful and nice.
Damn, though, to really be on that farm in Bethel where they all were 40 years ago? That right there just might bring the magic. But who knows?

 

Actually they have Woodstock every year in Bethel, NY.

the least publicsed and smallest attendances are the best.

Private individuals have hosted on thier properties.

There is a lot of pressure from The Man about un-licensed events. Landholders
are under scruitiny for amongst othr things allowing illegal substances ect.

Catskills are nice that time off year.

 

I hope this works because I would love to go!

 

Whatever, you guys wanna do an outdoor festival, go ahead, but please don't call it "Woodstock" anymore.


The spirit of Woodstock 1969 is not gonna happen again, exactly the way it was. "You can't go home again." There was only one true Woodstock and it happened back in August 15-17, 1969, it being a glorious event that happened at a unique moment in time, with lots of positive vibes happening all at once on that particular location, at Max Yasgur's Farm, in the tiny rural town of Bethel, upstate, NY.


If people who want to go to another outdoor event that will involve riots, rapes, ATM's, $4 water bottles, looting and an atmosphere of general mayhem and destruction, which is totally different from the spirit of the original event in 1969, I suggest you call your concert by something else:

How about "Laughingstock"




"Woodstock"??? 1999 :leaving:

 

I was born and raised down the road from Yasgur Farm, and yes the 1989 event on the "original site" was a blast with all the right vibes - there have been pilgrimages for "reunions" every year in August, celebrating the 1969 Bethel phenomenon. In the mid-to-late 90's the original site was (allegedly) bought by cable TV billionaire Allen Gerry and the site was fenced in, patrolled and "the people" were kicked off - with some actually being arrested. The site has since been turned into a performing arts center named "Bethel Woods" where you can attend concerts for @ $80.00 with $5.00 bottled water. About the time this began, local Godsends Roy Howard and his mate Jeryl Abramson took in the pilgrims and allowed everyone to gather on his property; the original homesite of Max Yasgur. Reunions have been held there most lovingly until 2006 when the town (with the financial influence of Bethel Woods?) ordered everyone to vacate the (private property) premises under penalty of prosecution from the town of Bethel and the probable incarceration of proprietor Roy Howard. That weekend, the "sanctioned event" featuring Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, went off without a hitch -or any road checks by the local goons. In 2007, some of the "family" diehards trekked back to Yasgur Road for the love of it - I guess you don't need permits for small gatherings of less than 200 peeps. Yasgur Road Farm property is now "Up For Sale" thanks to relentless pressure from the local oligarchy and established facist regime. BUT ! As only some are hip to and can attest to, the "Woodstock spirit" is not a tangible possession that can be owned, bought or sold... Hope, in the hearts of the ever faithful, springs forever eternal... ! "Woodstock '09 - 40th Anniversary !"

 

I may go to woodstock 09. I know it will never live up to or be as great as woodstock 69 was, but hopefully it will be better then woodstock 99. They're doing things differently this time, its going to be in the same location as 69 and the tickets are going to be free, unlike in 99 when they were $150 i think. I know no matter how many times we have a "new woodstock" it will never be the same as the first, but it still may be an awesome event.

 

Where did you get that info on the free tickets and the location being the same as in '69?

 

I read about the location being the same, but not that the tickets were free. I believe the article said they SHOULD be free. To which I agree.

 

The original Woodstock was a commercialized event for the purpose of creating “a gate” and producing a “profit.” Tickets ($18 for three day event) were printed and sold. Collecting them for a profit was what failed because of the inadequate time allowed for properly “securing” the “impromptu” festival site on such short notice and because of the lack of planning for the very much unexpected crowd size. The promoters did not simply “put up” two million dollars for the hell of it so everyone could have a good time. Woodstock ’69 was not a spur of the moment event, it was planned ahead of time for at least nine months but not on the magnitude or scale of its eventuality - Woodstock “happened.” The only thing that was spur of the moment was the eventual festival site which was moved to Bethel, NY at the last moment thanks to the blessings of Elliot Tiber (who had the permit) and Max Yasgur (who had the land) because Woodstock Ventures was forced out of Walkill, NY at the last moment. There was some last minute thought put into the event by scheduling only (mellow) folk bands for the first day to keep the possibility of negative energy from the music from producing negative vibes amongst the festival goers. Iron Butterfly was left in NYC and bands like The Doors weren’t invited. It was HOT ! There was basically no shade for the ½ million attendees unless they swam through the sea of people to the woods in the back or to the ponds for a dip. There was no escape from the torrential downpour. Once in, you could not leave unless you WALKED all the way to Monticello and took a bus away from the general NYC area... There would have basically been NO food or water for the throng if not for the donations that were brought in by emergency and prepared by the Hog Farm. Sanitation facilities were scant and quite taxed at best. The Governor of NY (Rockefeller) declared the (now third largest city in the state) site a disaster area and had the Nation Guard standing by in the advent of rioting. “The NY state thruway is closed man !” – Arlo Guthrie…

As for it happening at the original site, that is very doubtful unless the pirate who owns it now can make a bundle off the proposition…

In the mid-to-late 90's the original site was (allegedly) bought by cable TV billionaire Allen Gerry and the site was fenced in, patrolled and "the people" were kicked off - with some actually being arrested. The site has since been turned into a performing arts center named "Bethel Woods" where you can attend concerts for @ $80.00 with $5.00 bottled water. About the time this began, local Godsends Roy Howard and his mate Jeryl Abramson took in the pilgrims (from the yearly reunions) and allowed everyone to gather on his property; the original homesite of Max Yasgur. Reunions have been held there most lovingly until 2006 when the town (with the financial influence of Bethel Woods?) ordered everyone to vacate the (private property) premises under penalty of prosecution from the town of Bethel and the probable incarceration of proprietor Roy Howard. That weekend, the "sanctioned event" featuring Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, went off without a hitch -or any road checks by the local goons. In 2007, some of the "family" diehards trekked back to Yasgur Road for the love of it - I guess you don't need permits for small gatherings of less than 200 peeps. Yasgur Road Farm property is now "Up For Sale" thanks to relentless pressure from the local oligarchy and established facist regime.

“Woodstock” is not a commodity; it is a “Nation.” A nation that was born that weekend of August 15, 16, 17, 1969 because of the willing sacrifice of the promoters to drop the improbable idea of collection of a profit from an uncollectable “gate” in lieu of the general welfare of the gathered masses; the love and generosity of the workers and volunteers behind the scene such as “The Hog Farm,” the free kitchen, the medical tent and freak out tents, etc. And the open hearts and minds of the festival attendees themselves. The Woodstock spirit lives on from that generation to this one and will be lovingly passed on to the next. It is carried in the tolerant hearts of kynd people at peace with themselves and each other…

 

Boom!

 

woodstock = lame.... i went to the previous 2 - i was a kid, thats why i went...... you dont have to go to a festival, just because its a festival.... over priced, overhyped, bullshit. alot like bonnaroo only a little further north..... support the real scene ppl, the ones who give muscians and artists a chance, the ones who dont treat you like just another ticket, theres many of them around... thats why 100,000 ppl will show up at some bs festival with more corporate sponsors than nascar, and thousands of other talented musicians at your local festivals across the country will starve. . . . .

 

Here ya go...

http://www.joshpeproperties.com/details.php?p=19

On August 6, 2007, Joshpe Real Estate announced to the world that the hallowed ground that once belonged to Max Yasgur was officially for sale. The press release can be found below, along with links to international media coverage.

NEWS


For immediate release Contact: Brett Joshpe

August 6, 2007 718-873-6327



MAX YASGUR’S FARM FOR SALE:

LISTS FOR $8 MILLION

NEW YORK, NY—Max Yasgur’s homestead (including his residence, 5,000 sq ft. farmhouse, 7,000 sq. ft. calving barn, and over 103 acres) is now for sale. Yasgur was the dairy farmer who became a cultural icon when he allowed 40 acres of his Bethel farm to be used in August 1969 for the gathering now known as “The Woodstock Music and Arts Festival.”


Yasgur and his property were celebrated in Joni Mitchell’s song, “Woodstock,” popularized on Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young’s Déjà vu album with the following words:

“I’m going on down to Yasgur’s farm.
I’m going to join in a rock n’ roll band.”


Today, Woodstock’s original site is home to the $70 million Bethel Woods Center for the Arts. Local property values have benefited greatly from the development of the Arts Center, which is located less then two miles from the farm. The Arts Center features top-rated rock, pop, jazz, and classical performances from talents such as Bob Dylan, Dave Brubeck, and The New York Philharmonic.


The Yasgur property farmhouse, which was built in 1876, has the original hand-hewn beams but has been renovated recently and includes the following additional features:


Gourmet kitchen with stainless-steel appliances, double convection ovens, Viking stove, antique soapstone sink, 22 ft. vaulted ceilings and expansive views of the Pocono Mountains;
Ground-floor master suite with private entrance, built-in cabinets, laundry-room access and exercise room with sauna;
Master bathroom with double whirlpool tub, steam shower, bidet and double vanity;
Two upstairs bedrooms, full bathroom and cedar-ceiling loft with western exposure; and
18 ft. vaulted living-room ceiling with antique soapstone wood-burning stove.

The Yasgur residence (circa 1940) is approximately 2,000 sq. ft. and has three bedrooms, sun rooms, and detached two-car garage.


The barn has a stone foundation, original exterior and windows hand-painted with 60s music icons. The floor and metal roof were replaced and the beams shored in 1997.


The property is comprised of over 103 acres with approximately 2,000 ft. of road frontage. Yasgur Road is a 520 ft. road that leads into the property.


The property is being exclusively listed by Brett Joshpe of Joshpe Real Estate Co. Inc.

For additional information, visit www.YasgurForest.com and www.JoshpeProperties.com or call 718-873-6327. Information on Max Yasgur, his key role in Woodstock and a picture of his now available property, can be found at www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Yasgur.

 

In fact, here's a dream...

The area surounding Bethel is an economically depressed shithole controlled by aged old dinosaurs who are on the edge of their own extinction...

Hip people from all over, flock to the area like our own diaspora returning to the holy land and start squatting, renting, leasing, buying, opening up the empty storefronts, repopulating the area and becoming the majority, recreating the economy OUR way, restocking the schools and retooling the educational system, engaging and taking the command in the local governments, supporting the yearly pilgrimages, disempower the Gerry oligarchy and saving the promised land. Setting a shining example in a new cultural order of peace, love and TOLERANCE !

The Jews did it successfully in Palestine in 1948. So...? History does have a habit of repeating itself...

 

I'm glad to finally find some information about this. Seems everyone is trying to create a 40th anniversary concert!

I went to see Arlo Guthrie and Richie Havens last year at Bethel Woods and I overheard a guy who worked there saying they were planning to do something at Bethel Woods and that Santana had already confirmed. All hearsay, of course, but if they are going to do something there I wouldn't mind going.

 

That the most amazingly awesome plan ive heard yet

 

Well I plan on going if the music isn't shitty. I really think that all of us hippies going should convene there so we can enjoy it without being by ourselves surrounded by a bunch of assholes. I'm going to try to find more info on this and see if I can send a letter to this guy who's organizing it and ask him not to have shitty bands and $4 water. What bullshit '99 must of been.

 

Well there is no official website or at least not yet but there is a myspace for bands that are interested in playing at Woodstock 09 including many from 69. If this myspace is authentic, then it looks like they're really making an effort to bring back the spirit of 69 and they acknowledge the failure of 99. Of course, the spirit of 69 will never be brought back to a full extent but hopefully with this alleged careful planning it will be worth going to. Although if I do go, I plan on bringing my own food.