demonstration Against Marks and Spencer - 26th August - London

[size=+0]Time[/size] [size=+0]6:00 pm - 8:00 pm[/size]

Location Marks and Spencer, Oxford St (Marble Arch end)

[size=+0]These demonstrations have been going weekly for four years to protest against Marks and Spencer - Britain's biggest corporate sponsor of Israel. The aim of the picket is to build a focus for Palestinian solidarity activists in Britain to spread the news about the atrocities that are taking place against the Palestinians and support their just struggle for their own state and freedoms. The demonstration has a democratic base with an open megaphone for all progressive people to use. Everyone from different religions and backgounds are welcome as are all Left/progressive groups.[/size]

 

Hey. Know any decent websites with more info about this?

 

hmmm whats progressive about supporting suicide bombers and islamic fundermentalists ?

why does the left pick on the arab isreal issue all the time , there are much bigger human rights issues in sudan or iran but its always isreal all the time

try to think why ?

 

Anyone who supports the Palestinians right to a free state is a supporter of terrorists aren't they, as we all know that the Arabs are terrorists and suicide bombers, each and everyone of them. Just as are the Chechens, the Afghans etc etc. Yawn....

In fact I'm Irish and therefore genetically a mass murdering fuckhead.


On the 25th July Al-Mujihiroun had called an Islamic Rally in Trafalgar Square and The National Front called a counter-demo. Many of your so-called terrorist supporting 'left' turned up to tell them both to fuck off.

We'll be the left who supports terrorists and suicide-bombers then.

Please don't associate us all with the SWP Jonny for fuck sake.

 

Demonstrations such as this occur because our society transparently supports the regime in Israel both politically, economically and in terms of corporate sponsorship and trade. If large companies in our society like Marks and Spencer were corporate sponsors of the Sudanese or Iranian regimes, if our governments supported the atrocities in Iran or Sudan, then there would be similar demonstrations against those companies and policies. As it stands, there is less we can directly do to affect things going on in some countries than others, sad though it is to say. As I take it, these are awareness-raising demonstrations designed to show our friends and neighbours that the actions we are taking in our everyday lives have direct repercussions elsewhere in the world. Our governments are not allied with those massacring innocents in Darfur or with the theocratic rulers of Iran. Our companies do not trade with them. Clearly this does not make these other abuses less important, very far from it. But there is less we can directly do.

So you are conflating two issues by implying that there is a double standard in play. Drawing attention to an issue over which we have a direct impact is not to detract from the importance of other issues of concern in the world.

By all means feel free to post constructive threads about other human rights abuses going on. Unfortunately you have a tendency to post negatively, detracting from other people's concerns at human rights abuses because they do not match your own priorities.

Try to think why.

 

Hmmm....I do believe Marks and Spencer are now officially on my "support" list! I will place this on my action alerts. I like a good company that supports Israel and their right to live!

 

Each to their own I guess.

If you choose to indirectly support an oppressive regime then on your
conscience be it.

There is the environmental issue with M & S too. Them using Palm Oil is just one example, but then Walkers are guilty of that too.

 

These people don't have consciences.

They've got a lot of hot air though.

 

"These people don't have consciences"


your full of shit

I wasnt going to post anymore on this thread but your like a bunch of turkeys in favour of christmas.

one little counter demo is fine but generally the left backs islamists,
so much so that I believe your being bought by oil money, your tools.

we do trade with other countrys with bad humans rights what powers your cars oil.

isreal doesnt have oil and it has the islamic block to block vote un resolutions against it all the time while the world ignores whats happening in its neighbours .

by supporting campaigns like this you are supporting the agenda of hamas , hezbollah , islamic jihad , al-asqa martyr brigade and all the other child killing suicide bombing scum.

 

Nice to see you winning hearts and minds as always. If they're full of shit, then you're a dangerous racist fanatic. Hey, I like this sweeping generalisations and personal abuse thing you've got going on here!

PS. Do you have mental health problem? Just wondering. Your handle got me thinking. You appear to be incapable of following a rational debate. Showmet explained the flaw in your approach, but as usual you've ignored him, choosing instead to rant and rant and rant and rant and rant.......

 

Good boy! Thats the way! Make yourself feel a REAL man!

I've already answered your rabid shite about supporting wanker islamic mentalists but you obviously only have the ability to see things in black and white.

 

Yeah, been here many times before. j2m never listens to anything anyone says. He just rants.

 

Perhaps valium. Failing that a lobotomy.


Actually I take that back as I don't want to stoop to his standards.

<slaps himself round the face>

 

if you talk to secular iranians they blame the mullahs on us the uk, we do trade and our governments support countrys like saudi

and the only way Id win your heart or mind is to agree with you I dont

 

See, that's where you're wrong. You could start out by actually listening to what people say before you start to drool at the mouth. It might also be a good idea to treat other peoples' opinions with respect. All you ever do is rant on about how bad Islam is, entirely missing the point that nobody disagrees with you on that issue. That doesn't mean we support Israel though.

 

This campaign is against Isreal so you have taken sides .
The agenda and much of the propoganda comes from Islamic terrorist groups if your consciences are happy with that thats up to you .

 

Fucking helly, jonny. That's the reasoning of a 5yr old! It's not about sides. Why do you find that so hard to understand? If I say "Labour is shit", does that mean that I support the Tories?

 

I am personally in correspondance with both Palestinian AND Israeli activist groups neither of them agree with mentalism of any religious creed Jonny but no doubt you are unable to contemplate these people exist.

And anybody who rants about Islamic terrorism and the Israeli issue ought to go back and check the history of the formation of the Israeli state. Fucking hypocracy!

 

its not saying labour is shit, its trying to destroy isreal through putting pressure on businesses that support it .

your not neutral your helping the agenda of one side

 

That's the most simplistic reasoning I've ever heard outside a nursery. You could equally argue that by encouraging people to withdraw funding from Labout I'd be supporting the Tory party. What a load of bollocks.

Furthermore, I don't remember anyone advocating 'destroying' Israel. I was under the impression we were advocating putting pressure on them to improve their treatment of Palestinians? Being opposed to the way Israel treats the Palestinians does not mean being pro-Islam. You personally might feel that it helps Islam, but that's a subjective personal opinion.