LSD & the Subconscious mind

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by lou_reed, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. lou_reed

    lou_reed Member

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    I've always been interested in the link between the affects of acid on the subconscious mind. To what extent does it actually bring out the thoughts that lie in the far regions of your brain? I remember hearing Jim Morrison say that he lived in the subconscious ( a statement which most psychologists will straight away dismiss ). As an example take me, i happen to be a person with an irrational fear of snakes but this is a fear that i am very well aware of in my current state of mind. However is it possible that in a state of tripping i would come to dismiss this fear as trivial because of the manifestation of my subconscious thoughts (and fears) which on that plane of awareness come to supercede my everyday thoughts?
    Also, what are the chances (in your experience) that LSD can actually help someone face their repressed memories and allow them to deal with these in a way that leads to a positive outcome?

    ..appreciate the feedback guys. Peace.
     
  2. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    everyone lives in their subconscious... some people have just gotten crazy enough to think they dont

    i dunno what to say to your question so much... but I guess you could say psychedellics will present to you that your fear of snakes is no less an object than your computer and your computer is no less a thought than your fear of snake.
     
  3. mara-aum

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    On this documentary about leary you’ll see a guy (I forget his name) he was a colleague of leary’s and he’s the one who first suggested to leary that he should try magic mushrooms. He had survived the war & he found that by eating the shrooms he was able to work through suppressed memories of the war. He thought the shrooms might help leary (who’s wife had committed suicide 5 years earlier) leary took his advice & it changed his life.

    Timothy Leary - The man who turned on America


    Thankfully I don’t have repressed memories to contend with BUT I came with a lot of baggage regardless & I found psychedelic use good therapy. Lsd especially—it’s the best thing that ever happened to me.


     
  4. sheerwackiness

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    Can you ever really be sure that you don't have repressed memories?
     
  5. mara-aum

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    guess not.....technically who remembers everything? all i know if there was stuff buried deep you'd think with all the drugs i've done & personal inner exploration-meditation, hypnosis etc nothing like that has come up. wouldn't i get a vibe that there is something i forgot? i don't have that feeling.
     
  6. sheerwackiness

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    I don't know.
     
  7. woodlouse

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    There's nothing irrational about your fear of snakes Lou, some are venomous. Probably your ancestors lived in a country which had poisonous snakes, so those living there who were scared of snakes had a better chance of survival than those who picked them up and played with them. This is just Darwinian selection in action.

    As for LSD and repressed memories, you're right. Acid can work just as you describe and was used by therapists until the fascist junta (governments) put a stop to it.
     
  8. StonerBill

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    great apes are scared of snakes instinctively, according to what is taught widely. it is interesting that satan is represented by the one animal that happens to be instinctively scary to us.
     
  9. Tos

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    anything can happen to the mind on LSD.

    it all depends on how positive or negative your mindset is while going into the trip. if you are in a happy and uplifted state of mind before you go into your trip, you may find ways out of the thoughts that once plagued you with depression or anxiety.

    on the other hand if you go into a trip with a negative state of mind, those things that have bothered you before can magnify and lead you into a state of depression and a sense of being completely lost.

    i dont know if this is true for everyone but when i fry, i usually learn how to move on from the negative situations in my life. i see ways out of those thoughts that used to bring me down, whereas if i didnt fry, i would still be dwelling on those thoughts a little longer than what i would like.

    good trip or bad trip, its going to be intense. But its a fun ride :).
     
  10. PsychMyke

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    I've always thought of it this way...

    Some poeple claim that LSD gives you all the answers. This is false, it's a drug and nothing more. It doesn't give you answers. Reading a textbook gives you answers. LSD connects different portions of your brain that don't normally function as a coelsced unit. THis allows you to explore latent parts of your psych that normally act on the subconscious level. These thoughts and memories are brought to the surface of consciousness where they can than be explored and disected. In short, the answers were already there: you just couldn't see them.

    So, going from persoanl experience, any type of dilemma, fear, phobia, past tramatic experience can be keyed in on, which may be a tough thing to do whist sober due to the feeling of dispair brought about by the pondering of such instances. It will probably be a sombering point in the trip as well. But, you cant hide from while your on acid; the drug throws the problem in your face and forces you do to deal with it rationally. I personally have a life long medical condition. LSD has helped me come to some real, prominent, life changing conclusions on how to deal with it. I've come to accept it as part of who I am: something that has shaped me as a person, for good or for bad. Without it, i wouldnt be PsychMyke, if you catch my drift. I attribute this solely to LSD. And even when I finally do abstain for good, I will always love and embrace it for the benefits it has instilled and for perpetuating piece of mind and a life of solace. Long live the Lysergic!
     

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