My friend wants SWIM to try shrooms with him. I have never taken a hallucinogen other than Dramamine, and that was a fucking nightmare. I am a DXM regular and have robotripped probably more than 30 odd times. My highest dose was probably around 700mg and there was one other time where SWIM dosed between 650 and 700mg and then smoked some MJ. It was a very spiritual and dissociating experience. SWIM was able to handle it mentally, even though it was very intense, So im wondering if this qualifies SWIM to be able to handle shrooms. SWIM's friend says hes been offered 1 oz for 160$. SWIM said SWIM would rather get it from my trusted source for a steeper price, especially on my first time. He has tried them once, but only got threshold effects. I have read many things on erowid and various sites, but I need specific questions answered. 1.The one in the paragraph above about DXM comparison ^^^^ 2. If we do this in my friends basement, what is the chance that we will get caught, will we be able to act correct in front of authority? 3. Will we stay quiet and stationary, even during the peak? 4. Will my being nervous about a first time trip affect the trip itself? 5. Is a pair of two, unexperienced teenage boys, with noone else around, a good idea? or how bad of an idea is it? 6.Can SWIM flashback? Details? Will it happen in the middle of math class?! 7. Should SWIM try DMT firsT? SWIM already have everything to make it. SWIM thought maybe a shorter trip might be a good first one? 8.What is a good starting dose? There is very few things that scare me. I try to overcome all fears and this is no exception. I like to see myself as mentally strong, but i guess you never know how something affects you until youve tried it. ANY OTHER GOOD ADVICE???? PLEASE SWIM IS NERVOUS BUT REALLY WANTS TO TRY A PSYCHEDELIC! THANKS!
1. I've never done DXM, but I hear it can get pretty crazy. Chances are you will do just fine with mushrooms. If you are worried, just start with a smaller dose, maybe around the 1 - 1.5g range. 2. Not sure man, totally dependent on your situation. Will parents be home or anything like that? People tend to have pretty good control on mushrooms, but things do occasionally get out of hand. If no one else will be home you don't have to worry imo. Have fun! =0)
I find DXM to be alot more uncomfortable and more alien than shrooms. Tripping on shrooms feels more natural and you don't feel as forced into the trip as I find DXM makes me feel. Also DXM has a pretty harsh body load. As with shrooms you may feel a bit sick to your stomach after eating them due to the terrible taste it's body load is very tolerable. IMO You get very silly on shrooms. As a kid I tripped in front of my parents all the time and though I felt like I was obvious as hell they never noticed. They just thought we were being crazy and obnoxious because of the unstoppable laughter and unintentional goofy faces. I wasn't afraid of getting caught though so this didn't effect my trip but as with any psychedelic your mind is very vunerable and being afraid of getting caught may trigger a bad trip. Just play it cool and avoid confrontation at all cost. You will be able to control yourself enough to stay in one spot but you won't be able to control your laughter at some points. Shrooms always made me laugh until I was crying for no reason at nothing in paticular. If you are afraid that this will get you caught I wouldn't suggest tripping around people that would care. I'll finish this post as soon as I get home. lol I am at work right now.
Being nervous may trigger a bad trip if you sit there and dwell on negative feelings after you have eaten the shrooms. Best thing to do is not sit and wait on the effects to come to you or try to force the trip onto yourself or think about it too much. Just sit back and relax, watch some tv, listen to some music. Let it come over you as it pleases and you will be fine. Don't over analyze everything you start to feel, just go with the flow. Shroom trips can be light and mellow or intense and fast paced but you have to remember YOU are in control here. Having a sitter for a first time is always a good idea because you know you will have someone in their right mind to talk you down if things turn sour but I know how it is and that is not always possible. The first time I tripped I took wayyyyy too many with my step brother who had no prior experience with shrooms either and everything turned out just fine. I didn't have a bad trip and no one died. I actually had the time of my life and tripped for 22 hours straight. Just make sure you are in an environment that you feel completely comfortable in and that you trust your friend with your life. Talk about what to do if things become scary for either of you and establish some sort of 'safe area' like a couch or bed that either of you can sit on and calm down. It sounds silly but when a trip turns bad a simple notion that 'this couch or bed is a safe zone and nothing bad can happen to me here' can do wonders. I have never heard of anyone having flashbacks from a shroom trip nor have I ever experienced any. Not to say that it doesn't happen but I don't think it is very common. I don't believe DMT would be a very wise decision for someone inexperienced in the realm of psychedelics. DMT is very very intense and can scare the absolute shit out of anyone. DMT is extremely real and life changing and should be taken very seriously, Done under the supervision of someone mature and experienced. This is not to say it should never be done but I would wait until further experimentation with other psychedelics. A feel for the world of true psychedelics and a strong respect for them should be established before diving head first into the world of DMT. I have never bought or done dried mushrooms so I have no clue as to how much you should do. I have always picked my own fresh and based on that 3 large fresh caps (local potency) is plenty for a first good shroom trip. As to what that equals in street quality dried product is beyond me. Perhaps someone else can help him with that? As far as I have heard, I hear alot of people eating an 1/8. Sorry I couldn't be more of help on that subject. Anyhow, Happy tripping! I think you will do just fine and absolutely love it! If you have any more question just let me know.
thanks for the replies, im hoping i can get a wide range of input from various people. i am becoming very open minded about shrooms and my only true concern now is getting caught, i heard ppl are generally loud and energetic while on shrooms. a s I said we are planning this in a basement. Is there any advice on this? Is there maybe a psychedelic that allows more control that i should try first? thanks and keep the feedback coming- MUCH appreciated
Shrooms offer the most control other than the insane laughter but you won't always catch the giggles not everyone does but it is a very prominent effect from shrooms and more then likely you will. With LSD you will never know what it will do. It effects everyone differently and it even differs from trip to trip. Tripping on acid is pretty hard to hide, much more so than shrooms. Tripping period is not the best thing to try and hide no matter what the substance, really. For one you need to be allowed to open up and do whatever your soul desires without the restraint of fear of getting caught and two getting caught can cast a horrible shadow onto your trip and cause things to go downhill. The last thing you need are parents yelling at you or cops called when your not in the most stable of mindset. But like I said, you can control yourself a lot more on shrooms and if you insist on tripping whilst there is a possibility of getting caught this would be the best to try and get away with. You don't really become rowdy or anything so maybe just tell whomever that you are watching a funny movie or a comedy show if the laughter gets too loud. Other than that you should be fine in keeping it a secret.
yea im also tripping with my friend for the first time soon in my basement. my grandma will be home but she has bad hearing and probably hasnt ever been in my basement as she has trouble with stairs. we're both taking an eigth and my brother will be there (hes an experienced tripper). im expecting a pretty solid trip but i really dont know what to expect beyond that. 1. do things such as tv's and bright lights hurt your head or make you feel sick? 2. we're gonna be in basement the entire trip. will i feel couped up? 3. in the event that things take a turn for the worse, will i be able to bring myself down with help? im also very open to comments/responses so any input or info you could provide at all would be greatly appreciated.
Tv's and the such won't hurt you but it's kind of a wasted trip don't you think? But I guess since you will be stuck in a basement there isn't much else to do. Meh... Maybe try drawing, talking to your friend, writing, or just watch some visualization on the computer or Tv. Xbox 360 Visualizer is amazing. I don't know how you will feel being stuck inside. I personally can't stand it. I like to be outside when I'm tripping on shrooms, wandering the woods or something. I think you will be fine though. Yeah, You will be able to talk yourself down. It's always more reassuring to have someone else with you to tell you everything will be ok. Being told that you are only tripping and it will all be over soon and being talked to in a calm soothing voice helps alot. People make the mistake of getting loud or laughing at someone having a tough time. I've seen people go as far as making fun of them or egging them on telling them they are going to die or that they took too much. I would hope any knowledgeable tripper would know better than this. Also, like I mentioned in an earlier post having a designated safe zone established beforehand is a great idea. That way you can just go take a breather in the safe zone and clam yourself down, also it will let anyone else know around you that you may need some help.
1. unlike dxm shrooms arent really dissassociating, they make you feel like you become one with your surroundings 2. you might be able to talk to parents and other people depending on dosage, high dosages mean less control of the body, also if parents notice things like dialated pupils they might think something is up, on low dosages talking to people is a snap 3. it all depends all on dosage, location, and how well you can control yourself, you can stay quiet if you think you can stay quiet, but who knows maybe you will bust out into laughter or something of that sort 4. nervousness could create a bad trip or some state of confusion, but your trip is all in your head, go into the trip with a clear head, maybe smoke some weed before hand, lighten the mood, and let the trip do what it needs to do, do not fear the trip. if you can handle yourself on dxm im pretty sure you can handle yourself on shrooms. 5. its fine, aslong as your in safe enviroment, and there are no dangerous objects around, if your really dont think it will be safe, have a close friend come watch you. 6. flashbacks only really occur when people have former mental problems, and an event could trigger a relapse trip, i doubt you should have any, thats only really for crazy people who have taken way too much acid 7. dmt and shroom tripping are completly different kinds of trips, i mean i guess if you can handle the intensity of dmt for a few minutes, you should be able to handle the shrooms, i mean shrooms can get really intense, but usually its a build up. you could try doing dmt first, but you dont have to. 8. a good starting dose for shrooms is anywhere between 2-4 grams. i think if you both ate an 1/8th youd be good. mushrooms are different from a lot of other trips, there is something special about them, they are natures message to us, to show us the way of the unknown. respect the mushrooms, and they will respect you. try to take in what you see the best you can, dont ever take anything for granted.
