A question for the educated.

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Mark the time, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Mark the time

    Mark the time Member

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    what is the difference between homosexuality an taboo thoughts. what i mean is... can someone who finds themselves excited at the thought of sexual taboo be a homosexual when the occasional homoerotic fantasy enters the mind? Is the desire for sexual taboo a sickness in ones mind? Why is it that we harbor deep thoughts of strang sexual behavior. Can someone please explain these things to me.

    A question for educated gays.
    did you always think about men sexually? did the thoughts increase over time? when an how did you discover your moment of clarity. your defining moment where you understood everything. Do you ever wish that you could be attracted to women like you are with men?

    Was this a gradual process?

    Did you start off straight?

    if so can you elaborate on your sexual thoughts while you were straight.

    What turns you off about women?

    If anyone can answer any of these questions then please...

    I would appreciate feedback and experience. I wish to understand.

    A question for everyone.
     
  2. Aesthete

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    No. Not at all. There's no relation.



    I don't see why it should be so considered.



    Speak for yourself :p





    Nah, lol, j/k. Some sexual behaviours and inclinations are apparently heterodox because they're unessential to the socio-sexual paradigm of heteronormativity. Homosexuality was heterodoxy until it was unified under the common banner of gay identity. Up until that time it was simply considered an individual malfunction; and without any homosexual collective identity, the repression was tolerated if not condoned by even the most progressive of ethicists. And whenever any hints of homosexual inroads into general society were registered, they and their most reactionary ideological opponents jointly oppressed us gay people.

    Yep.

    Sure; they did with sexual maturity.

    Freshman year of high school. Previous to that I had only brushed it all off. That and I didn't understand it too well, I guess. "Moment of clarity" is an excellent way to put it.

    I might have at times; I dunno. But all I know now is that I'm damn proud to be gay.


    Gay Power!




    The liking boys part? There was nothing gradual about it at all, except for its augmenting with sexual maturity.


    If I had been asked to class myself when I was 13 or so, that'd be my answer. But in no real sense did I start off straight, no.

    n/a

    uh... everything? :p


    But if you want a memorable answer, I can say pussys. I'm just generally repulsed by bleeding holes. (Though some of the finest aesthetic experiences I've ever had have involved looking at guys' faces and mouths. In a cute guy the oral cavity is simply awesome. [​IMG] So that's an obvious exception.)


    But if you want a more detailed and discursive answer, I can, to the best of my ability, provide that. But I don't feel like typing it out, so if you're really interested, just reply back, and I'll do it. It'd probably come out a bit scattered and incoherent, though.
     
  3. Drew_445

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    IMO, i think that when we were born we had not a gay part about us. But, we also didnt have a straight part about us. It's not that we had no sexuality, it was because we were not developed enough to have one. Dunno if this is off topic to what you asked, but i felt like saying it :)

    Also, I think that as a kid I was gay, just not as strong and I didn't realize it then(I had homosexual activities when i was younger with other boys my age, at my consent :p ) anyways, as I got older i recognized those feelings better as "gay", there may have been a point where I was attracted to women, but not strong and most likely only emotional.

    Anyways, my two cents.

    D
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Why the emphasis on sex?

    For me its always been crushes that rule my love life
     
  5. Grey Kameleon

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    I am currently 'ambiguous' as far as my sexuality goes, but I'll give myself the benefit of the doubt and answer this in case it helps. The answer to this would be yes and no. I have always had a physical response to the image of fellow males (assuming they are attractive to me). I did not recognize this as sexuality, however, and the desire for sexual contact was, in my opinion, learned, not fixed.

    Well, yes. I wasn't thinking about guys all the time when I was 7. I was very sexually aware, however, and so this occupied a lot of my thoughts throughout adolescence.

    I had two. The first was when I was 13 and first thought to label myself as 'gay'. The second came when I was 18 and committed to stop repressing myself (at least my 'gay' thoughts, anyway).

    Yes and no. I seem to like women the same way women like men. I don't automatically become the eiffel tower at the sight of them, but they do catch and frequently hold my attention. I can't say I'd want to be completely 'heterosexual', though, and I would certainly rather be able to appreciate a woman as a person and not just a pair of tits and a spermplot.

    If I decide to pursue a relationship with a woman, it will be natural, and I'm sure she would rather be with a low-libidoed guy than with an alpha male who can't make eye contact if she's anything more than an A-cup. Sometimes, though, I wonder what it would be like to be completely straight.

    Yes and no. When I was a child, I never thought about acting on the feelings. As an adolescent, I repressed the feelings, then started becoming curious. Now my curiosity is slaked, and...

    ...I'm starting to reconsider the other side of me. No, I did not start out straight.

    Well, there was a time when I called myself straight and only allowed myself to look at girls. I felt forced and repressed, but I'm realizing now there was more there than just a forced 'she's cute! that means I must be...straight!!!1'.

    They scare me, quite honestly. I've always been uncomfortable around girls, and relating to them sexually just draws attention to all of my insecurities, both as a male and as a human being in general. I know that sounds really Exodus International-ish, but hey, I'm old-school about this. I don't think like the average gay guy. Gayness is kind of a safe haven for me, because I don't have to face my anxieties.

    Yeah, I know, I'm not a Kinsey 6, but I hope I helped a little.
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I wouldn't worry too much Grey, that kind of thinking is not as uncommon as you think, at 19 a guy is a bundle of hormones.

    That thing where you think you might be sexually attracted to a girl, you might go phroar!, but at the same time suggestions of sex between the two of you is creepy / scary in a way, Thats your Heart vs your Willy.

    Your Willy is saying "Wow, she'd give me cute babies", whilst your heart is saying "Screw that, I want to be with someone more like me". Just that at 19 your Willy has the louder voice ;)

    Gay doesnt always mean you're not sexually attracted to girls at all, sometimes it means you simply prefer the same sex.

    Looking at a girl and getting aroused also doesnt mean you're ever going to like the sex part


    Gay sex doesnt help, in the end you realise you have to choose between spending your life riding the rollercoaster or around and around on the pretty carousel ;)
     
  7. Mark the time

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    Grey, very interesting. Thanks for the insight. It sounds like you are not totally convinced. I can relate to your story about feeling anxious around women. It wasn't always like that just after my recent girlfriend who exploited just about every insecurity i have ever had. before then I enjoyed sex with women. But now after being torn to sheds im just fuckin embaressed to be myself. Questioning constantly wondering and confusing myself. It's a lot harder to bring yourself back from something like that then you'd think.

    What I was wondering, Grey, have you ever made love to a woman? and did that have any kind of leverage for your decision
     
  8. Grey Kameleon

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    No. I imagine that would make things a little clearer.
     

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