Still want to vote for Paul

Discussion in 'Politics' started by busmama, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. busmama

    busmama go away

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    WTF??? I don't even understand how Paul can cut deals with a facist xtian like Huckabee. I guess he really isn't such a great principled man, just a politician after all. Maybe he hopes if he plays nice that Huckabee will let him be his running mate?
     
  2. floydianslip6

    floydianslip6 Senior Member

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    No offense, but I'm not sure you're understanding what the paragraph actually means.
     
  3. busmama

    busmama go away

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    I do, but I just can't get past the fact that he has any kind of anything with Huckabee.
     
  4. floydianslip6

    floydianslip6 Senior Member

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    He doesn't. In the state convention he was eliminated from voting in the first round. The delegates needed to support someone. It's more important to gain national delegates for the GOP convention. Without any kind of deal cut by the campaign he may not have received a single delegate from WV. He's not playing nice with the Huckster at all, they have VASTLY differing views.

    He's trying to win the GOP nomination. The shit's chess it ain't checkers. In this case the Huckster's campaign needed the short term goal, while RP's campaign was looking for the long term.

    3 delegates isn't the best deal you can get. But it's better than 0, and it's also better than another Rom-bot victory.... which was the point.
     
  5. busmama

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    Hmm, I don't remember posting this earlier. In fact I was in a chem exam at that time.
    I think I may need to see who the kids had hanging out today.

    I don't really care who gets what nomination, I pretty much figure we are screwed either way.
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    They uhhh.... are both playing for the same team. It's common practice to step aside and endorse the leading candidate.
     
  7. floydianslip6

    floydianslip6 Senior Member

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    ^^^ The whole point was NOT endorsing the winning candidate. Romney was the winning candidate and the whole idea is NOT having him win.
     
  8. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Well, here in WV, politics is as corrupt as it gets. If you check out folks's comments on the WV news sites you'll see how PISSED OFF most folks are for the simple fact that they are just now figuring out that it's a GAME and it makes no bloody sense... Yup, Chess....

    Ron Paul apparently did the best thing he could do under the rotten circumstances. That was not even our primary! It was a scam. WV doesn't get to VOTE until MAY fer criseake! Here's a different take on it.
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    Feb 5, 2008
    West Virginia GOP Convention Update–Most Conservative Candidate Ousted


    GOP ESTABLISHMENT AND MEDIA COLLUDE TO OUST RON PAUL

    If you wanted to hear any excerpts of the speech from the the most principled conservative republican that raised the most money in West Virginia–Ron Paul–you could not hear him via local radio since West Virginia Radio Corporation, both in their reporting and state wide radio with Hoppy Kercheval, blacked him out. But it was covered live apparently via internet (see link below). (Do recall that John Raese, Chief Executive of WV Radio, ran against Robert C. Byrd in the Senate, and is tied to the state party establishment). Media bias and deliberate interventionism by deciding who is interviewed and recorded on their website is blatant and obvious, especially since interviewing Ron Paul always increases ratings (the basis for ad revenues). Fearing to alienate their Christian listeners they included Huckabee probably as a “Christian” alternative to Romney’s Mormonism (while neither candidate pass the conservative tests of the republican party planks based upon their respective records). This was the extent of their “balanced” coverage. On WCHS Charleston radio’s 58Live yesterday (a local station in the network covering the state’s capital) even the “moderate” Rick Johnson only mentioned “three” candidates and deliberately did not mention Ron Paul as a candidate for which delegates could vote for despite that he was the first confirmed speaker. This is typical of that program’s views (disclaimed in its daily introduction as a part of West Virginia Radio Corp.) usually expressed only by the neocon sycophant Mike Agnello. Though West Virginians have a right to the public airwaves, and it is in the public interest to have a well informed electorate, West Virginia Radio Corporation decided to apparently collude with the GOP establishment to push particular candidates and eliminate Paul. Note also that McCain is even excluded in their coverage (see link above).

    It is entirely possible that the stratagy of the establishment was to consolidate behind Romney in the first round in order to oust Ron Paul, which they did, and then permit McCain into the picture in the final voting without Paul. This is how the party collusion, in tandem with West Virginia Radio, appears to be working. The evidence of this is in the Charleston Gazette which stated that Thompson and Giuliani supporters were moving toward McCain, which was not evidenced in this intial vote. The strategy to oust Paul as a priority is evident, and worked. The outcome is pending.

    PLAYGROUND “DEMOCRACY” AT WORK–PUBLIC ELECTORATE DISENFRANCHISED

    Complaints by the republican electorate yesterday were numerous on talk radio expressing the largely held belief that they were disenfranchised by the establishment. The state GOP claimed they ran numerous ads in newspapers and thousands of emails, but listeners said they heard nothing, and the newspapers ran stories that showed 1,100 delegate nominees were still needed with only 5 days left before the deadline. (The last minute rush to fill delegates refutes the argument of heavy or timely advertising. The fact is the state GOP wanted to save money, and control the outcome, for a very profitable convention for them). Interestingly, Chairman McKinney’s favored candidate (now that Don Surber and Vic Sprouse have lost their favorites of Fred Thompson and Giuliani, respectively), Mitt Romney, appears to be positioned to win as the establishment consolidates its power in this “winner take all” convention, which usurps 18 delegates from the republican electorate, largely uninformed, and unpersuaded. (Horse trading and vote pushing is hardly persuasion, but playground “democracy” of “majority rule”).

    There is no doubt that the republican establishment, rather than the electorate, with the help of West Virginia Radio Corporation (which virtually controls state-wide radio coverage in audience listenership), deliberately intervened and colluded to control the outcome to THEIR desire, sacrificing a truly informed general public in the process.
     
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