Freedom to wear marijuana shirts

I went to school today wearing a plain black t-shirt with a cannibis leaf on it. Several teachers noticed the shirt, and didnt think to much of it. The dean saw me with the shirt, and told me 'not to wear that shirt to school again'. I then muttered 'I've been wearing this shirt since last year' and the dean pulled me to the side. He asked if I had an under shirt on, because he wanted to confiscate it for some reason I dont know. I willingly took off the shirt because underneath was a PanterA potleaf shirt. I started to laugh and got sent to his office where he then called my father. My father refused to go to school for that because thats a stupid thing to get a kid in trouble for. So now they (the deans) are discussing it and I might get suspended!? I know by wearing a shirt like that is just like asking for trouble from teachers, but seriously, I've seen people with "FUCK TEACHERS" shirts on and all they get is a scolding!

 

If you get suspended,
Simply do this.

Go to the district magistrate,
And file a lawsuit.

You will win, guaranteed,
And likely even get compensation money and leniencies from the school,
For the time you missed due to the wrongfully imposed suspension.

You will win on these grounds (and likely these grounds alone):

The first amendment.
Freedom of expression.

Simply because you promote the legalization of marijuana,
Peacefully, and without disrupting classes or other administrative processes,
You are guaranteed the right to do so.

Cannabis shirts are sold legally.
Cannabis shirts, therefore, can also be WORN legally.
And if your school punishes you ILLEGALLY for the wearing of such,
You will win the lawsuit.

Good luck, friend. Hikaru hopes that the situation does not escalate to the point where a lawsuit is needed, but if it does, you should not back down when defending (1) your rights, and (2) that which you believe in.

Take care.

Edit: You have the right to wear a shirt in protest. Years ago, there was a Supreme Court case where students wore black wristbands in protest of the Vietnam War. Each of the students were expelled (or perhaps it was suspended? Hikaru cannot remember exactly which ...) from the college, and they grouped together and filed a suit against the college, and won.

The Supreme Court ruled that the wearing of the wristbands did not disrupt class or other school processes, and because it was not disruptive, it was freedom of expression, which every citizen has a right to.

The college was forced to readmit the students and compensate them for their lost time. The students collectively became legend due to this. =)

 

sounds to me like your asking to get caught wearing shirts with a pot leaf on them.

 

At our school, in the handbook, it says you can't wear shirts with drug references on them..

 

Yeah you can fight that shit and win.

 

damn that sucks If I was you I would give them a real reason to suspend me and tell the principal to FUCK OFF.

 

Just because something is in the 'Handbook' doesn't make it legal. Just like because it's a law, doesn't make it constitutional. They can find loopholes, no 'goth chains' cause they could be weapons.

 

I think you should definately check your school rules before you take any action.

 

Have you read anything in this thread?
If it's school rules it doesnt mean it's legal.......

You should fight it, because if you win, I'll fight it down in Florida and win, and then hey, that's two circuit courts we have gotten them to rule in.


Anyways, I lost a Pantera necklace that had a tiny little potleaf on it. It said PANTERA nd ahad a little potleaf hangin below it, you could barely see it, but of course the bitch Dean took it.... I also have a Superjoint Ritual shirt (It's a band, not even marijuana related lyrics) with a TINy little potleaf inside an inverted pentagram, but I'm afraid to wear it because at my school they don't say "Don't wear that again" They confiscate your shirt, and give you a "PROPERTY OF __MYTOWN___ HIGH SCHOOL" then you have to have a parent come in and get it, total pain in the ass.





Edit: I just talked to a bunch of friends who know alot about constitution and shit, and because We are minors, we don't have many rights to begin with , BUT on top of that, it's already been ruled there is no first amendment right in Schools.

 

Ehhhhh,

In public, yes, you have legal grounds for fighting the decision.

The problem is that since the 80's the rights of students have been whittled down to practically nothing. When we enter the school doors we forfeit almost all of our rights.

If it's in the school policies then it is considered legal for them to operate off such policies, because most schools don't let you attend unless you agree to them (likely a peice of paper you signed in homeroom not even thinking about it), and even if you didn't sign that peice of paper then the school is operating in locus parenti, meaning that the school has been given the power to decide what is best for you while you aren't in the care of your parents. Technically schools even have the power to demand strip searches.

The Supreme court is where all this has originated. That armband thing was in the sixties before alot of the rulings were handed down, and don't really apply anymore. I hate all this stuff too, it's not safe to have ganja at school making toking right afterwards hard. but i can toke now.

 

I was gonna bring my bubbler and a half ounce to school today, for after school purposes of course , and I was with my friends and they we're smoking ciggarettes, and we weren't even on campus it was my friends house right by the school, like 20 steps to the school . And they checked our fucking back packs and we got friday school, I'm so glad I didn't bring any weed or my bubbler, I didn't have anything on me *phew*

 

its funny how students now have no rights, even though there was a supreme court case (can't recall the name) but anyway the chief justice or whoever was like " Children are not stripped of their rights as they walk through the school house door" or something like that...
unfortunately though no one gives a shit about freedom these days. as my whore of a principal told me, "you have no rights"

 

which is why i say fuck schools. its fucking bullshit. they think just because you walk into their doors that they own you. shit, who the hell do you think pays your principal salary? who's pocket do thoses raises come from? until they no longer tax us for schools, that shit is ours. we pay for it, end of story.

i also hear they want to start random drug tests. if i was still in school and that happened, you can bet your ass there'd be a riot. im sick of our educational systems bullshit.

 

Your school probably made you sign a contract when you were intitially enrolled, and that means you must comply to their demands; you have no rights in school. That's why search and seizures can be conducted in a totally wrong way, and also why I don't bring any contraband to school.


Here's an example. If you're 500 feet within the school, and enrolledin the school disctrict, they can search you. They don't need any probable cause whatsoever. If you refuse, they can call a police officer, and your refusal will be grounds of probable cause, because you're aren't protected by the fourth admendment.


Bottom line: If they suspect you, you're fucked. If they know this, you're fucked. If they don't, you may be saved; but it's a hell of a risk.

Our on campus cop is pretty damn stupid. While frisking us one day, I told him that if he touches me I'll file a sexual harrassment lawsuit, and that I have 10 witnesses (my friends) to testify. I had 5 grams on me, and he coudln't do shit that day. Next day, however, I was called into the office and searched. I won, but only because our campus cop is a fucking moron.

But, yeah, it does really suck. School's bullshit, it really is. Maybe not everywhere, but anywhere they force students into a classroom with 40 other kids, take away their basic human rights, and cram standardized testing down their throats for the sake of funding, is total and complete bullshit. Your Public Education system at work, though.

 

They already are doing drug testing in MANY schools in America.... You know how if they suspect you of having drugs, they search you, well in smoe schools they search you, then drug test you. Then of course, some schools have random drug testing. Bush is proposing an extra like $4 billion for schools to drug test students.... To tell you the truth, if you live in a middle-class low to average crime area, You don't really have to worry. If you live in a rich area, you prob. don't have to worry. If you live in an urban area, you may have to start worrying.

 

my friend had a shirt with a pot leaf with an american flag inside of it, and on the back it said "united we toke, divided we choke" and the DARE officer laughed and told him he liked it.

 

haha thats great. I've still gotten no word of whats to happen to me. I doubt it will be anything over detention... or maybe not. I once brought VERY STINKY weed to school once, and I think all the art teachers knew (all the art teachers go barefoot or are huge hippies) and a lot of black people kept asking if "I had trees son". On my way out of school that day a cop in a box (an auxillery officer in a police scooter) had stopped me, checked me, and found nothing ( I hide my weed in a hidden sewn in pocket, shh). He could only legaly hold me for 1 hour until the real policemen came, and I guess since he found nothing, and searched me all on a suspicious smell which could have come from any of the 10 + kids around me, he let me go.

I was not required to sign any legal document stating "I have no rights in school". I always read everything I sign, even the fine print. And if my school ever held manditory drug testings, I would definatly speak to the ACLU and get a case. Besides, I tried out for the school's baseball team, and failed a drug test, and all I got was a letter home to tell my father. He was really upset. Only because I had to take a drug test. (He's a 50 something year old hippy and vietnam vet so he loves his reefer as much as I do)

Thanks for all your help, and if push comes to shove, and I get suspended, I will definately take your advice, and follow through. And a school riot wouldn't hurt neither.

 

If you atend a certain shcool they have the right, to bad whatever they want. They could say "the result of drinking milk during brakes between classses, results in an imdediate suspension" doesn't mean its right but if you atend that shcool you must abide by their rules. If you want to take it to court make sure you don't lip off any staff members and make sure their is nothing saying you can't wear t-shirts with drug references on them.

 

in australia tehres none of that bullshit random testing, or even any testing at all.


but i think some of you guys should grow up. when will americans realise that they dont actually have any right anyway?

And all teens need to realise that schools do have power, and they need that power, and as much as teachers can piss us off, tehre is a level to which they shoul dbe allowed to punish kids. but there also is a level that they shouldnt, like with random searching and testing and stuff, thats jsut fucked.

But yeh, you dont have rights, now stop pissing about in your pity and make the msot of your laws, find the loop holes, all of that.

Meh, move out of america lol that would fix most of your problems, including corrupt law enforcement, conservative government, your silly ideals of freedom, patrotism, and much more.

 

Hey you commie bastard , we aren't the only country with corrupt law enforcement. And besides... I don't go telling you how much I hate those kangaroos. Until you've lived here for a while, shut up about the US. I'm not defending america, but in a way I am. You can't just say "blah blah america blah corrupt blah" without knowing what its like to live here man.

I do realize schools have power, and thats alright with me. But in no legal document, or law, or anything does it require a 'pat-down' or searching through my bag all on a hunch.

dog bless america,
-TEC