I think by the way things going, i would be surprised to still see it illegal by the year 2020. ideas are changing about it, and this is the first time where we have had presidential candidates that are for legalizing it either for medical, industrial or recreational purposes. when do you think it will be legal, if ever?
well you probably need to be more geographicly specific. many places the u.s. has not yet majorly set its sights on bullying have done nothing to outlaw or ban it in any way. as for decriminalization in dominant, 'western', industrialized, corporacraticly usurped, and/or bullied parts of the planet, the answer depends on the rate of pardigmetic evolution, and events other then entirely forseable as to their timetable. personally i'm opposed to the banning of the mere possession of ANYthing, ONLY because of the opportunities doing so create, for the abuse of ANY legal system. i think you will find enforcement of such bans being abondond as the day contiues to dawn, that people and governments have bigger and more immediate things to worry about. like famine and disease, and rather stoic indifference, in the face of them, to "continuation of government" in ANY form. =^^= .../\...
I've been asking this since the 70s. Gee that seems to be my theme today! Anyway, you have to realize that pot is now part of our infrastructure. It supports an array of people's jobs from cops to the guy who lights the fire to burn evidence on disposal day. If that were suddenly removed it would create a glut of personnel in the government followed by massive layoffs of government employees. When that happens the stock market plunges as confidence in the government and its financial guarantees begins to erode. This could easily bring about a long term recession that melds into a full blown depression. Personally I don't think any of that would happen, but it's the horror story the government would like to keep selling. I was particularly put out by Clinton. He fooled the youth base by relating his own pot experience (didn't inhale was a way to appease old fogeys who are agaainst any and all pot use) and playing the Sax on Arsenio Hall. Once in office Clinton drove marijuana arrests and prosecutions to new and frightening levels. 3/4 million people per year which is still being reached by the current administration. Both democrats AND republicans deal with the situation in the exact same way, by building more and more cages to lock up more and more Americans. Under Clinton and since, Americans have been going to prison over pot! So electing the "right" president won't likely have any effect on the legal status of pot. It will have to be a grass roots campaign. And it will take more than one way of thinking to get it ddone. On one hand it will take money to lobby for it. Ultimately marijuana will be legalized through bribes and kickbacks and little else will alter this under our present system. But that can still be influenced by the public at large. Unfortunately people who are pro-pot can expect only harrassment and if they are pot users that will increase substantially. It will not be easy to get pot legalized while hiding in the shadows or whining over the bong with your buddies who certainly agree that it should be legal. One way I can suggest would be to plant the stuff everywhere in America. State Parks, national forests, all kinds of places where not so many folks frequent. If the crops are planted in seclusion they will eventually be spread by nature till the laws are basically meaningless. But that would take a LOT of people planting seeds. The point is that it will not happen without action. Waiting for the right politician has not worked at all! CF
great post dude, you're right. most marijuana laws will have to occur within the states, which is obvious since medical marijuana can obtained in 12 states, even though the cards are pretty much worthleses, you can still get raided by the DEA. actually that idea of yours about planting it everywhere is quite intriguing. i'm not sure if it would work, but it makes sense because it is a weed, so it could grow pretty much anywhere. hemp in paticular grows really well, and apparantly there are wild hemp fields growing naturally all over the country, until the DEA finds out about it and burns them ;(
I also don't give 2 shiites about "Medical Marijuana" either. I think it's a smokescreen issue designed to draw attention from the real point here. That point being "Why in the hell do we have the government regulating what we choose to ingest in the first place?" CF
we need a constitutional amendment baning the outlawing of the possession of anything. even if that takes a new constitution. if we want anything to not be in readily availabe circulation the honest and right way to go about it, and then if and only if a majority of people really do, which is clearly NOT the case with canabis or quite a variety of other substances, would be to ban large scale production, sale and importation. but NOT, EVER, mere possession. i'm for banning the mass production of fire arms. of automobiles. of destructuring the legal construct of corporate economics. and anything else a majority of people want to ban being mass produced, sold for valuable consideration, or imported in wholesale quantity, but NOT the possession of ANY of these items or substances nor the personal crafting of one offs of any of them. banning possession of anything creates a situation where anyone can fraime anyone else, and there are always people wanting to do so for political and personal vendetta reasons. it's just insane to keep perpetuating opportunities for them to do so. if the only way to have pot was to grow it yourself, but it were perfectly legal to do so, i see no problem with that if anyone actually wanted it to not be in circulation, but clearly there isn't even a majority rationally opposed to its availability, only a minority of economic intrests who think there getting something out of keeping it unlawful. but this has drifted into the question of should and shouldn't, away from the rather indeterminate "when" in a given "where". for which the only answer is whenever it does. =^^= .../\...
more and more states are decriminalising small amounts like OZ for 1st offesnse But shit, i dunno, hope they dont. cause theyll tax the fuck outta it Marihuana tax act of 1937 sucks dick
Dude, I would SO rather pay a tax on pot than be thrown in jail for it. Tax every ounce I buy Uncle Sam, there's no telling where the money's going now. Time for American attitudes about pot to change. But again, paying tax is better than being locked in a cage (particularly with horny inmates). CF
it would be taxed, but it would also be made by brands, and these brands would compete with eachother to make the best weed, so quality would improve with the supply and demand. the only thing i'm afraid of is that since it's going to be grown in mass production in giant fields, like tobbaco, that pestisises and nasty chemicals will be added, just like cigarettes have. if it were to become legal i would definatly grow my own.
It's like when someone uses too much Miracle-Gro. It leaves a taste that always has you wondering if you're dissolving your own brain.
Umm...no its not. Ron Paul is the only pro-weed canidate, and he has run many times before. And yes, it will be legal 2020. I guarentte it.
everything will be legal when there is nothing to make it otherwise. i am not judging whether this will be good or bad, simply observing the obvious logical possibility. unless and until then, what is lawful and what is not, remains up to a diversity of factors, including cultural perceptions and transient priorities. both of which are constantly evolving in not always predictable ways. when everyone is starving no one is going to be too worried about what anyone else is smoking, unless they can use it as an excuse to steal their last can of beans for themselves. the human speices really has bigger fish to fry, most especially our entire collective survival. its dumb that its unlawful, but there really are bigger concerns. =^^= .../\...
2020 sounds about right, not as a time when it will finally become legal but as a time when a reasonable chance toward making it legal will start. You have to realize that it's the voter that can make the change, and the largest demographic of voters is the senior citizens. If the young people of today actually got off their butts and voted, then it would become legal a lot sooner. Most of the people that graduated from high school in the mid 60's and later have smoked it and may be open to legalizing it. But a major portion of the people running this country are older than that and still believe what was portrayed in reefer madness. It's not until those old people are out of power that it stands a chance, and percentage wise it won't be until around 2020 that they will hold less than half the seats that control this country. And attempt to legalize before then will surely hit a brick wall.
The government is expert at finding ways to tax things. Look at all of them. We have a tax for being married, a tax for saving money, a tax for smoking, a tax for drinking, a tax for fishing, a tax for hunting and we tax cow manure! The government is certainly an impediment to marijuana's legal status, but I can guarantee you it has nothing to do with not being able to tax pot. And paying tax on it is SO much better than going to jail for it. Jail sucks, the food is lame and the sex is violent! CF
it will be legalized in the next 10 years, there are to many benefits Marajuana is the most profitable substance in the economy, despite it being illegal, which would give the government more $$$ The main factor behind the prison overflow crisis is from marajuana related charges More and more countries are starting to lighten up there laws on marajuana Our generation knows more about marajuana than past generations, (like our Parents) as we are starting to realize that the world is taking the wrong approach toward basically how its run I could go on for days, i'd for sure say in the next 10 years it will be legalized, but with certain restrications, and rules etc.
