Fox News: Al Qaeda possibly recruiting US citizens

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328967,00.html

"The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include 'domestic,' thus enlarging the number of activities to which the Patriot Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied."

Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking?

 

I'll post what I already posted under the same thread in another forum


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The link isn't working, but I already know about this. A few weeks ago, Fox News was saying that, according to MI5, al-Qaeda cells in Britain are recruitng white members to its group. A "white" al-Qaeda, they called it. They said that these people are likely to have no criminal background and are likely college educated. In other words, anyone could be a potential terrorist.

Here is the link to the Fox News propaganda piece.

Anti-terrorism manuels sent to local police by Homeland Security list potential terrorist suspects as being white men who wear t-shirts and jeans, and carry almanacs in their car. You see, it's intentionally very vague because now everyone is a potential terrorist, not just brown-skinned people of Middle Eastern descent. None of this anti-terrorism stuff was ever about going after so-called "al-Qaeda" terrorists because this notion of jihadist terrorism, as we are made to believe exists, is a complete myth. The real war is against anyone who asks questions and challenges the government's lies. If you question the government, you might be with al-Qaeda.

 

OK, the link on this thread appears to be working.

 

But there are white terrorists, and not just the IRA.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/13/nbnp113.xml

 

wow. this kid actually believes that terrorists don't exist.

i've been face to face with AQ operatives.

and they're smelly.

 

Well, first off, what are terrorists? The media likes us to believe that everyone the US is fighting over in Iraq is al-Qaeda, which is just asinine. Who do you think stands to gain over this incessant fear-mongering over terrorist boogeymen who want to "cut our heads off" and "convert us to Islam"? What do the alleged terrorists stand to gain from this?

I don't doubt there are religious extremists who want to harm the West. I have no doubt that many of these useful idiots are also used by Western intelligence agencies -- a'la the CIA, Mossad and MI6 -- as patsies. Little do these dupes (many of which are mentally ill or of low IQ) know, they are only playing into the hands of the US government, which is more than happy to offer their pre-planned "solutions" to fighting terrorism. In order to fight terrorism and push their agenda, they need an enemy to fight. If you don't have an enemy to fight, you must create an enemy. The West has been creating their own enemies for over the past 100 years, so this is certainly nothing new.

The potential for a bunch of loosely knit, rag-tag terrorists acting alone, to inflict major damage against the West, is almost non-existent. This is, in large part, what makes the official story of 9/11 so laughable and hard to believe for any relatively critical thinking person.

Anyone who has lived through an oppressive totalitarian regime can tell you that fear over outside boogeymen -- real or imagined (usually imagined) -- is used to get the people in a state of fear and anger, so they will willingly give up their rights in favor of so-called protection. It's the oldest con game in the book, but because people are so conditioned to believe whatever the government and media tells them, this con game has proven just as useful as it has always been in the past. People simply have not learned from history, mainly because they do not know history. The saying goes that those who do not know their history are bound to repeat it, and this is exactly what we can see happening today.

 

i've never been to iraq.

and your whole blabberin' post just shows that you're one of those ppl who choose to ignore major problems and just hope that they'll go away on their own.

they won't.

 

of course, the last thing they want is for any of us to question their actions and motives. no matter how questionable they are.

 

i imaghine under the patriot act thomas jefferson would be deemed a terrorist for advocating that we do away with a federal government that is out of control and tyranical.

 

I think the message here is that if you are obsessed with hating Bush, the existence of real terrorists is extremely inconvenient and they have to be swept under the rug or blamed on the US. Rat even manages both, claiming that the terrorists don't exist and were trained by the US. In conspiracy land, this is considered "logic".

Any yet the only people who believe in 911 conspiracies are the usual UFO spotting nutjobs and kemtrail kooks.

 

the CIA has acknowledged they have given funding and training to what later become known as Al Quaida. you are one of the people who i refered to earlier that has a hard on for making Rat look bad. people like you believe all terrorists live in the mideast and wear turbins and that we or none of our allies could ever be capable of such behavior. open your eyes pepik. maybe if tv stations and newspapers weren't so busy pounding out government propaganda masquerading as actual news. perhaps people wouldn't formulate conspiracy theories in their minds?
perhaps if Bush wasn't such a pathological liar who has a questionable agenda people wouldn't do such things? i guess because your tv set tells you something it must be true!
as far as ufo's go, look at this. http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/WTC_UFO.html did you know many people in the military as well as former NASA employees have admited that UFOs are in fact real? i've never actually seen one myself. but many people have seen weird shit in the skies above them that defied all other normal explanations. but it's okay, just go back to your normal routine of a consumer lifestyle and utter medicocrity and be a good little peasent.
yes, chemtrails are real, i've actually seen them here in my town. they definately weren't normal contrails either. these trails were in patterns like checkerboards. some believe these have the pourpose of weather manipulation . as a matter of fact the discovery channel has said so that there is weather manipulation technologies.

 

And it is the ones who know little to nothing about the history of al Qaeda who consistantly make simplistic statements like "the CIA funded and created al Qaeda".

Do they teach this in the Conspiracy Theorist Handbook? In one sentence claim that everything in the media is government controlled, and in the next sentence use the same media as reference to back up your conspiracy claims.

Simple Rules to becomming a Conspiracy Theorist

1. Believe that everything explainable and unexplainable is part of the conspiracy.

2. Repeat false information over and over as if it were fact.

3. Believe that you are "enlightened", that you have a superior knowledge of the conspiracy, and that everyone else is brainwashed.

4. If somebody disproves one of your claims with fact, simply move on to the next unproven claim.

The most important step to becomming a conspiracy theorist is that you have to want to believe that there is a conspiracy.

 

So anyone who sees something strange in the sky that can't be explained is a nutjob? Wow, how close-minded are you? I'm not saying every UFO sighting is an alien spaceship, and I'm not saying that I believe every conspiracy theory out there, but I keep an open mind. Only a fool would ignorantly write these people off as nutjobs.

 

the federal government by their own admission has said they gave help to afghan "freedom fighters" who ended up becoming al quaida. these people were sent to fight against the soviets in the 80s. yet you say i have no idea about al quaida's history? what part of them admitting to this do you not understand smart guy?

 

he's a troll Jim. he seems to think everything will be always be okay and that we have nothing to worry about ever.

 

Wacki forgot rule number 5, which says that if someone doesn't believe in UFOs and space beams destroying the WTC, and pokes holes in your crap logic, just accuse the person of being a bush loving neocon who supports the status quo.

 

Al Qaida were arabs. Afghan freedom fighters were Afghan. You managed to contradict yourself before you even finished the sentence.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Afghans so you're saying that arabs have never once stepped foot in afghanistan? sorry, but in this day and age arabs don't limit their residency to saudia arabia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Arabs_in_Afghanistan
At the end of the 7th century, the Ummayad Arabs entered into the area now known as Afghanistan after decisively defeating the Sassanians in Nihawand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Quaida
Al-Qaeda (also al-Qaida or al-Qa'ida or al-Qa'idah) (Arabic: القاعدة‎ al-qāʕida, translation: The Base) is an international alliance of Islamic militant terrorist organizations founded in 1988[4] by Azzam (later replaced by Osama Bin Laden) and other veteran "Afghan Arabs" after the Soviet War in Afghanistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1712906.stm


wow, there was arabs in afghanistan during the 7th centruy. i'd say you spoke too soon guy.

 

I never said Arabs weren't in Afghanistan, so you are just spinning your wheels.

What I did was distinguish between the Afghan freedom fighters, supported by the US and Pakistan, and the much smaller, and less important group, the Afghan Arabs where were recruited and financed by other groups, some of whom later formed al queda.

So saying the Afghan freedom fighters became al queda is incorrect.