Right people i am very pissed. I have just brought salvia 25x. First off, it looks just like the dried leaves but cut up into small peices ..But I just gussed it's what extracts look like. Second I put about 1/8 of the gram into the bong and felt a slight strange feeling but that was it. And they say it's a gram . .But it's not . . . AND I'm going out and smoking all of it at once now, so i might come back out of it. I can only hope! Sorry about the bad spelling, I got pissed and smoked somne weed. ARGH
OMFG It was a bad mistake, I was walking along in the feilds and just sparked up and had two hits and then WHAM. Life disapeared. It was just me, a non-lifeform. Everything lost detail and distance. I couldn't establish which was right next to me, or which was 10ft away. it was so strange, I wanted it to stop but, I knew that if it stoped what would be left. I felt that what i was experenicing was real. For instance to let you understand. Nero In the first matrix. I felt that my suroundings were like the matrix and i was slowly being pulled into reality. The trip scared the hell out of me, But i loved it! I always enjoy bad trips to a certain degree. So you could say they are not bad trips. While the rest of my body is screaming out, part of my mind likes it .. . And the strange thing was I wanted to scream for help, I felt a little ball of air comming from my stomach to go out of my mouth to shout out. But a voice in my head said, "O . .going to shout are we?" And I relised what was the point in shouting for help and stoped. Omg, It was great. I think any lower than 25x would be shit for me. As i took the whole lot at once i should expect a intense trip. But i want another more intense one. I'll tell you about the next one.
Ha...yeah, my first salvia experience was a lot like that. I remember staring at my friend almost mad, like "Why didn't you tell me that there was a whole nother universe that was going to roll over me like a hamster ball? You just said I was going to get high!" Salvia's pretty intense. I find it to be an incredibly physical high. Glad that worked out for you! I wouldn't do it without a sitter myself, but I'm kindof a wuss that way.
Yea, It was so strange I wasn't sure If I were rolling around on the rocks or my vision was so blurred. One thing I found rather strange was my hand swelled from stinging nettles and i cut all my hands. At the time i remeber the pain but it was if i had never felt pain before. I almost welcomed the pain as, in the trip, felt warm, gave me the feeling of life. Yes, I do admite my downfall was sceptisium of the herb. I had a couple of goes on the bong but felt nothing, soon as I used my blowtorch lighter 2 hits ...Out of this earth. I actully thought i had gone insane though the trip. I fully respect the powers of salvia now, I shall be having a grow tomorow as well Also Just a note, One thing that was strange was walking back home. Trying to act normal although It wasn;t changing the way I looked or walked. But at the time, Wild eyes, cut hands and walking into things must have looks strange. I would advise you don't cross the road while on this, I was cms from the side of a car. Peace
People misunderstand salvia. Strength doesn't always mean much of anything. It took a few tries of 10x to REALLY break through, but after that a tiny pinch of 10x or small pinch of 5x, or two-three good hits of plain leaf get me there. Salvia has a 'reverse tolerance,' meaning the more accustomed to it you are, the less it takes. Nice. You can get more from a good hit of glowing torched 10x with a water bong than 20x in a pipe, a lot has to do with how well you heat the salvinorin compound out of the leaf. Holding it in longer helps, obviously. Plus torching and water cooling makes the smoke much easier to take. I'm over 220 pounds, and a single hit from a pinch of 10x can send me into the ego-loss world of what-the-fuck. I agree, though, the word respect comes to mind a lot, with Salvia. lol I was expecting something mild, since it's legal. Most probably do. First couple tries produced lots of laughing, and a semi dreamstate, but I was drunk that case. Then the third time...wow. Took a small 'test' hit while I had nothing to do. Went into my bathroom and took one hit to try the new bong. Now, I was expecting a mild feeling, as this leaf is advertised as meditative, which hardly does it justice. Sweet holy fuck. My bathroom visual got torn down, along with my spine, and I was in the middle of some machine/conveyor belt thing with bits of piece of the architecture I'd seen in my life mixed with some downright alien looking thing moving past me. Yes, respect. ha
YES, I know that voice EXACTLY! It's like it has an attitude. It's like everything I do, everything I think, it has to rub it in my face. Like, one time I was going to get a drink and it said "Oh, reeealllly. Going to get a drink are we? Okaaay."... like it knew something I didn't.
Yea I know, It was so weird. But my response was even stranger, Now that i knew this "Voice" new, I choose to not shout for help. Strange. All this week I have been tripping my nuts of on 25x. This will be something to remember. Two things, on my second hit i find myself trying to eat the smoke out of the bong, and sticking my tongue out trying to taste it And every single time i think in my head "Wtf? Nothing. .Oh wait. .I'm FUCKED" Lol. I find myself more open to talk and a lot funnier, I find myself laughing at my own jokes which is incredible sad. But no, when I mean I'm funnier I can just think of comebacks faster and have a real comic element. When you guys/ladies take it, in the best words you can use, can you describe what you feel? First off I feel if I’m sitting down, that i am apart of the earth, Like a rock and I can feel the whole world. Like little sensors everywhere. Then I feel very trapped, I feel that where ever I look I can't escape that little patch. That's why I like to be able to be somewhere modern (so I can remember civilisation) and I like to be looking at something very far away. From that, it changes to the feeling of my spine being the centre of the universe. My spine being very prominent. Wow, I could talk about this all day. It's surprising that something legal can give you such a strong experience.
That would be great if we had a thread devoted to our attempts to describe the salvia experience - I might request a sticky. So far, Luketrials, you're the only one who's expressed an interest in describing the experience. I'm the same but I don't see many people posting reports (at least, not with great detail). Check out my first couple time: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217737 http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=218078 I also jotted some notes down from my experience on the weekend:
We should def do a sticky. It's strange I grow my own shrooms by theoese experiences are wayy to deep to explain. At least with salvia you can explain parts of it. "wtf? nothing . . .Oh wait, I'm fucked!" Lol Some notes that i have read were that when you smoke salvia you break all boundaries, it gives the same feeling in early childhood. This is then lost as you grow older and mature. My first thoughts were what a load of old . .. but, everytime I take salvia I have a strong feeling that I know this "level" this "perception". You could say it is though taking it more than once. But the very first time I took it, it gave me the same feeling as meeting an old friend.
Yeah, I've had those "childhood" feelings too. Actually only once really intensely. I felt like I was back in my old house in Saskatoon where I grew up and my parents were there. I'm not sure if they were my actual parents or if I had slipped into another life where I was a completely different kid with different parents. Most of the time, though, I don't get that "childhood" feeling but the feeling that there are "parents" present is a recurring theme. They're always dissappointed with me for smoking salvia. Don't know what it means. I'll PM one of the mods with a sticky request.
Hmm, This disapointed feeling you get sounds very interesting. I would look into it, may be somthing that you need to deal with. (Suppressed Memory)
Yeah, that's something to keep in mind, but I also try not to jump to conclusions. After all, it's just chemicals having effects on your brain. It may not be anything more than that. It would be good for me to see if this can be interpreted in a psychoanalytic way and try confronting any issues it may bring up, but I also think it becomes imbalanced if one focuses only on these kinds of interpretations.
