Wow! I'd almost forgotten this thread. But on re-reading it, it all came back. Seems like just a couple months ago, not years. I wonder how Noic is getting on?
Probably quite swimmingly now that he's freed of that vile temptress. Last month, I was getting involved with a girl who'd made very plain her disgust with how I talked about going barefoot in public places. Fortunately for her, it was as yet too cold for me to go out barefoot at that point in time. :tongue: She and I are still friends, though. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out with me going out to places with her in my bare feet. (Normally we just stay in and watch movies instead of going out anywhere.) My hunch is that she'll be shocked at first then pretty much get numb to it. After all, I'm barefoot with her every Sunday at church.
barefoot at church? good times indeed! noic75 i've seen your feet.. tops and bottoms.. your ex is a weirdo.. you have nice feet.
I'm happy you're still around. I'm not able to drop in here quite as often as I wish, but I try to at least every week. I love it here because there are at least some who understand these things about me that are not understood by my fellows in Maine. Kind of like on a weather board where everyone understands my love of snow, I guess!
The girl has right... I hope you wear at least a nice pair of shoes and socks when you go out with her? (A dress shirt and a nice trouser would do a good job as well...) Women do their ultimat best to look elegant. Giving that back as a gentle man, is the least you can do...
Feh. Any woman worth pursuing with a long term relationship in mind would not judge you by something so superficial. Being a gentleman is more about how you treat others, not about outward appearance.
Is this a troll post? Sounds like what I used to hear my grandmothers say back in the 1950s (dark ages.) And I still hear stuffy bankers talk (and dress) that way now. Yuck, to think I survived all that stupid crap. I've been making up for lost time ever since. There are plenty of ways to loosen up, expose a little, or a lot, depending on circumstances, without the infernal suit and dress shoes. (Gag) Despite my attitude about your attitude, I am old fashioned enough to believe in showing respect. I'm just thankful we're in a different decade than the ones I remember. So: Once again, I'm big on clean. The shirt and shorts can be a slightly dressier grade (up a level) from what we may just work in or hang out in. There are control freaks in this society who still insist that real men must wear long pants (fuck that) and again, perhaps if we guys took a little more care of ourselves down there, look a little less like Fred Flintstone but not necessarily feminine, the world would welcome the showing of more of us. Oh. And not all women do their best to look elegant. I don't see a gender divide on this. There's elegance and inelegance on both sides, just a reminder. I was at a wedding yesterday in very unusual Maine warmth. It wouldn't even occur to me to go to a wedding in my favorite warm weather outfit: (shorter shorts, tank top, flops, or bare foot.) I went up a few levels at a nearby location. I arrived in a new somewhat dressy new short sleeved shirt, and my new breakaways (which I wanted anyway for backpacking---they unzip into shorts in seconds) and my black Chaco treking sandals---recently scrubbed clean. And, as Barefoot Matthew teaches, a very recent pedicure. At the reception later, I unzipped and the shorts and sandals were well received. I even had the sandals off when going up to get drinks or food. Again, we let the girls do that. It isn't just for them afterall. When I get too old to be seen in places like weddings in that way, I don't know what I'll do. Probably move to one of those places where they're used to seeing ugly old men. Horrors. But I can tell you, at 55, I'm not even close to that yet! I stay clean, toned, and tanned. You accountancy types just need to loosen up a bit. There's no one way, right or wrong, on either side of this debate. A respectful person will make it up as they go. A few modifications at our more liberal end of the argument can definitely make a difference, and show respect. I've been at this game for a long time. The only time I get looks is when I'm in shorts and running shoes in bitter cold, and even that is being seen as normal nowadays. We're getting somewhere!!!
Cool Spruce, you shouldn't take Frightful Accountant too seriously! My young Belgian friend likes to tease us barefooters a little bit... But imo he's pretty harmless.
I was thinking that, and edited it to where I asked if it's a troll post. But I needed a venue to spout off one of my pontifications (!) about loosening up and still being respectful, especially after yesterday's wedding, so he provided me with one! No anger or hurt feelings. I still don't know everyone on these boards!
@cool spruce ... you ever notice advertisements in papers? look at how they have "men" (over 40's) as compared to "young men" 20 somethings. the "men" have slacks/slack shorts with a button up shirt tucked in and lofers while the young men are in cargo shorts, a t-shirt or polo NOT tucked in and sandals/flip flops. I'm 51, lean and keep in shape, I dress very casual with flip flops. When I get too old to be see in places dressed like that, I just won't go. LOL I'm gonna dress for ME and if it isn't liked, tough.
Definitely noticed. It's sad. Like it's all decided FOR us. Cataloges, too. Only exception seems to be ones having to do with backpacking and hiking (my passions.) I've spent my life breaking this mold. I could still do with a little less around the middle, but I can and will take care of that, and the rest of me is taut and toned. Agree strongly about dressing for ourselves. I know that what I do isn't offensive to anyone, except, apparently sometimes when barefoot to just some uptight folks in the usual places we all discuss here. Other than that, I'm good. I'll deal with old age when I get there.
txbarefooter and cool spruce you are so right. i'm 46, tall and thin. however, i get the comments, which i've learned to ignore, about how i should dress. i am going to be barefoot, in a tank top and in "daisy dukes" or old ratty cutoffs until i'm 80 hopefully. :jester: