I myself do not enjoy watching animals suffer and i am against animal testing but, fox hunting should not be banned. I believe this because it is a famous English tradition, if they do ban it it shall mean tax inflation to fund the police to prevent any hunts going on and if it is banned then a huge amount of hounds will have to be put down and so that's animal cruelty in it's own right and so i just think that the activists are stirring up more problems than solving them. And i ahve researched this, only 50,000 foxes are killed by the "Hunt" while 200,000 are killed by farmers. Anyhow i stress i do not believe that animal cruelty is right and i just needed to get that off my chest thankyou for reading.
So killing animals for sheer entertainment is perfectly fine so long as it's framed as "tradition?" You do know that the same argument was used to justify southern slavery in the US - "It's Southern tradition!"
But farmers killing 4 times the amount of foxes that hunters do just so that you can feel good about eating food that doesn't come from an animal is OK?
It actually has little to do with the foxes or hunt. It's about futhering the growing trend in western europe toward socialism. Destroying the barriers that seperate the classes. Same with the new bill in U.K. regarding walking on other's property.
If someone has a moral problem with something, like fox hunting, why don't they just personally refrain from doing it. Is that not enough for them? They should say to themselves "I personally believe that fox hunting is wrong. therefore I shall not go fox hunting". Why do they have the overwhelming urge to tell others what is right and wrong, they are Nazis. Fuck protesters who tells people how to live their life when they are not personally influenced. The only creatures personally affected by fox hunting are the foxes, and do you see them protesting? No. So let it be.
I can't believe they banned it, for centuries they did it with no problem then some animal-rights activist come in and shut it down. It's not like this was a greatly popular thing, we all saw tens of thousands of people protesting in the streets of London. I mean jeez, we kill alot more cattle every year not even for fun, just to eat it and alot of that meat doesn't even get eaten, should we stop the cattle industry too.
That's what I say - Fuck them!! If something isn't directly affecting you, then fuck off and leave people alone!
I'm not serious about the last sentence, that was just a joke, but for the rest of it I am serious. Note how I said "Fuck protesters who tells people how to live their life when they are not personally influenced". How are any of the anti-fox hunting protesters personally affected by fox hunting? They are not! Yet they insist on telling other people, to whom the sport has personal meaning, that they cannot do it! I don't understand the protesters need to do so. I can understand people who protest against issues that will affect their lives, like Genetic Engineering, Government decisions and the like, but how can you justify protesting against an issue that doesn't personally affect you? It is morality gone too far. Would you like the fox hunters to try to force you to go fox hunting? I assume not. They wouldn't because they respect your beliefs on it. Telling someone they can't do something they love is just as bad as telling someone they have to do something they hate. Proof: fox hunters love going fox hunting, therefore, thet hate not being able to go fox hunting. Anti-fox hunting protesters are telling fox hunters to do something they hate doing! What right do they have to do this? Especially when the fact that people go fox hunting in no way affects the lives of the protesters.
What about cruelty to animals? Let the neighbors beat their dog with bricks cause it doesnt affect me? Let militants in Sudan slaughter children cause it doesnt affect me? Let wife beaters .... well... beat their wives cause it doesnt affect me? Sometimes the voiceless need a voice thats not their own.
That is a valid point, but then you will not be happy untill everyone in the world lives to your moral code. When do you stop protesting and respect other peoples right to their own moral code? For example, if you are a vegetarian you personally don't eat meat, but do you protest the fact that others eat meat? No. You don't personally beat your girl, but you do protest the fact that others beat their girls? Yes. Fox hunting must slip into the "yes" category for all the protesters i guess.
Of course it does. A pack of dogs tear another animal apart while rich men on horses cheer. seems cruel to me.
Besides, I've already stated that this issue really has nothing to do w/animal rights. It's part of an overall agenda.
Maybe I'm just an ignorant, fancypants city-slicker, but my idea of hunting always involved a bunch of dudes going out at the crack of dawn dressed in camo with hunting rifles. No dogs or horses.
Read up on fox hunting then. It started as a form of pest control that grew into sport. Rich guys on horses follow packs of dogs as they chase down and destroy a fox.
Do animal rights activists get upset when they witness wild animal versus wild animal cruelty? Like when Orcas (Killer whales) toss alive seals into the air for fun, or when a cat lets a mouse go then pounces on it again. Yes but humans have the free willed choice - WELL LET US FUCKING CHOOSE FOR OURSELVES THEN. It is not a free willed choice if you ban something.
I may be totally wrong but I was under the impression that an over population of foxes was bad, and thats why fox hunting wasn't banned a long time ago. Does anybody know about any of this? Cause foxes dont have natural predators do they?
Hey this guy knows what's going on! That's right, without predators foxes will overpopulate, run out of food (meaning hey! there's an impact on other species) and run rampant with disease causing the to die slow and painful deaths. But that's all justified in the name of a "social movement", some class warrior day dreaming about socialism while he votes away the lives of so many innocent animals.
That's typical here in the US more for still hunting things like deer and turkey.....caribou and the like.....big game that's what I'm getting at. There are a lot of hounds used for hunting things like cougar, bear, coons, squirrels and rabbits. Rarely will you see horses used. You should get into to it...take the course buy a gun and get in the woods!
I just gotta ask a few questions. Why does the fox deserve to be killed? Obviously if we could speak to it would freely let you to hunt it and kill it? And if its an overpopulation issue has this been proven to happen? Humans are uncontrollably overpopulating but yet we dont go on human hunts? Just wondering what you guys think