Christians. Why do you respect a God that kills humans and does not denounce slavery?

doesn't god actually encourage slavery?

[though shalt not]

mind-slavery to a foul-tempered jealous little tyrant

 

These same reasons are why I too do not believe this flood myth either.

The Bible does need a remake for sure. It does not deal with too many of todays issues. IE. Slaves, woman and Gays to name a few.

I think the authors meant the Bible as a best guess of it's day and was intended to be revised over time.
To have it stagnant as we all evole would be stupid.

Let's hope the Vatican renews it before all of Christianity is lost.

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

Regards
DL

 

If we are to believe that the flood happened then we are decended from Noah, not Adam and Eve.

Further, Gogod has all kinds of options. lookoing like a genocidal maniac should have been His last option, not His first.

Christiann tradition does not show any of us as reincarnated. The babies and children that were killed then have no option in this regard.

To think that a perfect God who creates perfect works has to kill His perfect souls is strange in the least. If only 8 out of millions can be seen as good then God would be to blame for creating so many imperfect souls.

If a boat is built with holes that let it sink, we would blame the boat builder, not the boat for the sinking.

God is responsible then for whatever happens here.

Regards
DL

 

God does not.
The Bible does through omision of condemnation if nothing else.

Those who payed for the Bible must have been the rich slave owners and the writers of scripture did not want to bite the hand that fed them looks like.

Regards
DL

 

you missed my [possibly obscured] point

if i am not mistaken god wrote

thou shalt not [have other gods or however that bit goes]

thought control is slavery

[of a kind]

 

No, if we believed the flood myth, which I don't, we'd still all be descended from Adam and Eve, because Noah was.

Not necessarily. Olderwaterbrother already brought out the free will argument, and process theologians take it a step farther by arguing that God is not omnipotnet/omniscient in the traditional understanding.

 

This was written by man.

When God decides to write anything to men then we will all know it. It will be irrefutable.

If we are to put no other before Him then we must find Him first. He sure is hiding well.

No eye has yet to see Him.

Regards

DL

 

We only have limited free will.

I have a will to live forever. I will die.

Regards
DL

 

what an extremely odd response

the bible says the commandments came from god

if you are arguing for some other god then you are proving my point

but in that case why use 'him' [i cannot bring myself to capitalization]

the god of the bible wanted a subservient man/woman

and when man rebelled expelled him from eden

the christian god is all about slavery

christianity is a slave religion

[free your mind and your gods will follow]

 

Not odd at all.

The Bible is wrong.

The God of the Bible is a God of exclusion. Only through me etc.

The true God is within the Bible but must be a God of inclusion.

He began as master of all. He must continue thus and end the same way. To say that He is only master of those who are not in hell would be downgrading Him to a back sliding God.

God is not a back slider. He would not Himself to be.

Regards

DL

 

christianity is not a slave religion..I dont even know what that means.

First off, why are we concentrating so much on the old testament, when Jesus came to change everything??
Secondly, you don't have to believe in everything the bible says in order to be a christian...most people understand that the ancient Hebrew texts were heavily influenced by mesopatamian culture (Hammurrabi's code) and the laws of the day were extremely harsh. So yes, most early civilizations on Earth had slaves, and a unfair class system...thats just how it was. To say that "The Christian God is all about slavery" well, thats just a little bit rediculous.

No one has to argue for any other God...Your whole argument is based on the assumption that to be Christian you have to believe in every word the Bible says. I say, to be a Christian, you try to follow the teachings of Jesus CHRIST, and you believe in a higher spiritual power which humans have given the name God. In short, Christianity is more than the Bible.

I can follow your logic, and Im sure you can follow mine.

 

god is not a 'him'

if god is even an anything

[not to mention singular]

 

jesus said no other way than through me

what else would a slavemaster say?

 

Jesus said little if anything to improve the lot of slaves, women or gays.

To me this makes Him no better than those rich men who paid for the Bible.

Regards
DL

 

We agree that this saying is wrong.
No one has the authority to get between God and His souls.

Regards
DL

 

What the hell are you talking about?? Jesus associated with these people and kept them as friends...that was huge back then. You would be ostracized for that. By the way, the whole idea of someone being "gay" back then didn't even exist. Are you serious?!

 

Check your bible for abomination. This is Gay.

What did He say that helped women and slaves and Gays?
Put scripture where your mouth is.

Regards
DL

 

I dont rely on my bible, because I don't believe in every word of the bible.
The idea of someone being a "homosexual" is less than a century old. The bible says about 2 lines of anything that has to do with same sex relations.This has nothing to do with God, it has to do with the ancient Hebrew culture. Thats how it was, and so thats what they wrote. The only reason conservative christians focus on those 2 lines so much is because they are repressed, and many are log cabin republicans who hate themselves because they are gay and so they hate others who are openly gay.

Jesus was not one to turn away anyone in need or as a friend. But, You're saying that because a man 2000 years ago did not change societies views on same sex relations, he is a bad person?? Im sorry, but I know you've probably had bad experiences with Christians, but Im not one of those people.

 

I have said that Jesus was a great prophet and Rabbi but not divine.
I have never said that He was a bad person.
He was deficient in some areas like the one's I have mentioned. These omissions are telling and indicate that He did not have all the answers.

If He is to lead Christianity then He should have spoken to these important issues.

Regards
DL

 

maybe he did, and they are just not all recorded.