Does God create perfect souls or imperfect souls? Or both?

Being perfect they will make the right choice.
If any were to chose hell, I think we could consider them insane and God would just adjust them to sanity and the right choice.

Isn't that what you would do for your children?

Regards
DL

 

Quite frankly, NO, that is not what I would do for my own children!
I would educate, train, try to set a good example and advise my children but if an adult child of mine made a wrong choice I would not give him a frontal lobotomy and take away his freedom to choose for himself.

What you’re saying is that God only allows us to have freewill as long as we make the right choices and if we make a wrong choice he should step in and take our freewill from us and make the right choice for us. That is not freewill at all!

As for being perfect and making the right choice Adam and Eve were perfect and did not make the right choice!

 

They certainly did or God would have rebooted the sytem then by killing only two instead of waiting to send a flood and killing millions including all those innocent children and babies. Better two in hell than millions, right?

Regards
DL

 

They certainly did not!

As for why God didn't reboot by killing Adam and Eve, don’t you remember, I already answered that in your thread: Christians. Why do you respect a God that kills humans and does not denounce slavery?

I answered by saying: This is quite simple, if he had killed Adam and Eve, he would have killed, not just millions at the flood, but also the billions alive today, seeing as we are all their descendants. Seeing as I like being alive, I’m glad he didn’t kill them.

To which you replied: If we are to believe that the flood happened then we are descended from Noah, not Adam and Eve.

To which I replied: I just have to ask, who was Noah descended from? Your statement here makes as much sense as saying I’m descended from my father but not from my father’s father. So if Noah was a descendant of Adam and Eve and we are descendants of Noah, then lo and behold we are descendants of Adam and Eve.

So to answer your question again, if God had killed Adam and Eve immediately, you and I would not exist today, seeing as we are descendants of Adam and Eve. I kind of like being alive don’t you?

Also it’s interesting that you dredge up this old question rather than reply to the rest of my statement.

 

Stop FedUpAmerican, if you keep talking like this, I'm going to start liking you!

 

Either way, you are saying that incest started the whole thing. Nice.

If Adam and Eve were not archetypes then where is the talking snake.

Regards
DL

 

greatest I am, once again you try to dodge the whole subject by bringing up a off topic subject like incest, if you don't have an answer just say so and we can move on to another topic but don't think you're fooling anyone by just changing the topic.

Your next statement: If Adam and Eve were not archetypes then where is the talking snake. doesn't make sense to me, it sounds a little like you're asking me the old joke; do you ride the bus to school or do you take your lunch. Okay I'll bite, I'll say the garden of eden.

 

Taking the Bible literally is not tje way to read it.
My comment was to show that if Adam and Evehad any reality then so did the talking snake. The garden and the tree of life is still sopposed to be on earth if you read Genesis literally. Where is it.

Let's finish this issue then we can go wherever you like.

Regards
DL

 

Taking the Bible literally is not the way to read it.
Why not?

My comment was to show that if Adam and Eve had any reality then so did the talking snake.
I wish you’d read other peoples posts and you’d see that I answered this for you in your thread “Christians. Why do you respect a God that kills humans and does not denounce slavery?” when I said; Satan was the unseen, power manipulating that simple reptile the way a ventriloquist works his dummy. So yes all three are real. Yes, there was a “talking” snake!

The garden and the tree of life are still supposed to be on earth if you read Genesis literally. Where is it?
Do I really have to think this though for you? Have you never heard of the global flood of Noah’s day? Do you really think that the garden and the tree of life would have survived?

Let's finish this issue then we can go wherever you like.
You make it sound like I’ve been trying to change the subject, when it’s you that does that, I’m just answering the questions you bring up.

 

Because if you do then you are asked to believe in talking snakes, fish that spit men out after three day, staffs that turn into snakes, seas that part and supernatural creatures like angels , demons and Satan.
Yes you are and also another supernatural being, God!

Not a healthy or productive way to read a book of philosophy.
Again you just say whatever comes off the top of your head, who are you to say what is or is not healthy or productive?

Be it a talking snake or a Satan, they are still fantasies.
Again you just say whatever comes off the top of your head, who are you to say what is or is not a fantasy?

You mean that God would allow the destruction of the tree that the little cherubim were to guard. One supernatural event killing the other. Tisk tisk.
Tisk tisk, all you want, that doesn’t make it wrong or impossible for God to do so!

Give your head a shake. If God wanted us to believe such nonsense then He would have left a sample here for us to ponder.
Again you calling something nonsense does not make it nonsense and God doesn’t have to do what you think he should, he does what he thinks he should

 

Who am I to say.

I am the one who judges the reality I wish to believe.
You do the same.
My reality makes sense. Yours does not.
God has no need for such foolish notions.

Regards
DL

 

wow.

that was an extremely foolish post.
Im not trying to flame, but how dare you say that your reality is right and everyone who goes against you is wrong.
who are you to think you understand it

 

Firstly, there is no such thing as perfection.

Second, the Universal God wouldn't make something if it didn't please him or serve his desires.

 

Well apparently he has made a world in which so many bad things happen - does that please him? It doesn't make sense, you could just as easily pick a random person off the street and worship him/ her as the messiah, would that make it true?

 

Good and bad depends on one's prespective. So does worshipping a person off the street.

 

Ok, so I may see murder, rape, violence as bad, but someone else will think it's good - and that means it's ok?!

Worshipping any person is no more valid that worshipping Jesus is it?

 

It's difficult to grasp at first, but I think you get the idea. It's just the way it is.

 

No it isn't, what is wrong is wrong whatever way you look at it, if it is in the name of religion it could possibly make it worse! If that is what God wants, much better off without him!!

 

What is wrong and what is right all comes down to human opinion and perspective. In reality, there is no right or wrong.