When Jesus was in Mary, what happened to the trinity?

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  1. greatest I am

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    When Jesus was in Mary, what happened to the trinity?

    I find it strange that a God who did not like angels impregnating humans and producing giants would turn around and impregnate a human Himself.

    Having God the father/Jesus/Holy ghost, impregnate Mary and producing Jesus/God the father /holy ghost is also strange. It would mean that God impregnated His own mother. This is incest and not what a God would do.

    Regardless of this fact, if Jesus was in Mary for 9 months, what was the trinity doing. Was Jesus taking a sabbatical from being God or were there two God, one in Mary the other watching himself be born?

    While Jesus was on earth, was the trinity minus one of it’s members?

    I must say that the whole thing is confusing.

    Can anyone make sense of all this for me.

    Regards

    DL

     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    No. It doesn't make "sense". That's why they call it a "mystery". It's possible to give several plausible answers, but we'd never know which one is right.
     
  3. Okiefreak

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    No. It doesn't make "sense". That's why they call it a "mystery". It's possible to give several plausible answers, but we'd never know which one is right. but I'll give it a stab, as one plausible alternative: You say God didn't like angels impregnating humans because they make giants. But God isn't an angel and He knew he wasn't going to make a giant. He also never had "sex" with Mary, and the incest taboo is a means of preventing inbreeding which doesn't apply to spiritual impregnation. As for what the persons of the Trinity were doing in the womb during the gestation period, they were presumably doing what they always do--hanging out, hearing prayers, doing miracles, etc. Never a dull moment! While Jesus was on earth, the trinity was still together, although one of it's persons had corporeal form.
     
  4. Hiram Joseph Yates

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    Another mystery. How do you know what God would do?
    Are you sure you are 57 years old?



     
  5. ryandersom

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    When you know who your talking about it makes this question not exsist.

    God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirt are 3(three) separate people or beings. If you read the Bible in the account where Jesus is baptized, all 3 of the Godhead are present.

    Jesus (the Son)= the one being baptized
    God (the Father)= proclaims "this is my Son, in whom i am well pleased"
    The Holy Spirit= shows in the form of a dove

    The Godhead isn't 1 being with 3 sides/personalities, but rather 3 distinct SEPARATE beings working in tandum, One in focus and purpose.

    When Mary is pregnat with Jesus, God (the father) is still running the show, Jesus is the Son of God, not God himself. easy peasy.

    God works in his own ways. It's like when people freak out about Adam and Eve's children reproducing. "OHNOES thats incest 2 have secks with your brother!" Well what the heck are they suppose to do when there are only 10people on the WHOLE EARTH!!!

    It's best to chalk it up to God knows what he's doing. He always has and He always will.
     
  6. Hryhorii

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    Catching up on paper-work.
     
  7. greatest I am

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    If He knew what He was doing, I wonder why He had to send a flood to wipe out what He originally did and start again and screw up again.

    Christians and others are still waiting for Him to return yet again to fix His second failed attempt.

    Regards

    DL

     
  8. Okiefreak

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    He had to send a flood to wipe out the original batch of humans, because the "Angels" (Annunaki?) who were supposed to be supervising the humans rebelled and began having sex with them instead, contaminating the human gene pool with alien DNA. (I read that on some website of dubious credibility, but it seems as good an explanation as any.) He knew what He was doing, except he put unreliable angels in charge. In Aztec mythology, the gods screwed up not once but on four previous occasions, each time wiping the slate clean and starting over. I don't think "Christians" are waiting for God to "fix" His second attempt. They think Jesus already took care of that.
     
  9. neodude1212

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    this is dogmatic bullshit that doesn't even matter.

    and i've read about the angel/giant thing. sounds like another fairy tale to me. where did you guys get this from?
     
  10. greatest I am

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    Jesus took care of those who follow Him.

    The rest are yet to be killed and sent to hell.

    God should have known that the angels would screw up if He is God.
    Genocide is a sin and I cannot see a God using it.

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. neodude1212

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    no one goes to hell. and you cannot begin to understand God's plan. who is to say who screwed up. even if you are 57 years old, you are nothing but a young baby compared to God.
     
  12. Okiefreak

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    As I said, I got mine from a website of dubious accuracy. I'll admit, it was tongue in cheek, but I thought it would be in the spirit of the post. The Annunaki were Sumerian deities, and there's a whole cult who believe they (and God) were visitors from another planet who bioengineered the human race to serve as slaves in the mines.
     
  13. neodude1212

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    that isn't as bad as my friend.

    he thinks that since we have such strong sex drives, we were genetically enginered by aliens. so by the time they come back, everyone will be so good at sex, because sex is all that really matters to people anyways, that they will be able to use us for it.

    now that is some crazy shit.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I'll make it easy for you true Christians don't believe in the trinity.
     
  15. Hryhorii

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    Why not? This might actually deserve a Sanctuary thread...
     
  16. Nikalaus

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    Ok ... i'll say like Okie, this is pretty deep here is my take on your question.

    First of which you have to identify whut the three beings are.

    Through my experiences, and spiritual path, I have seen alot of material which try to bridge the gap between Science and Spirituality, I have have seen and done much research into String Theory and I am a strong advocate and truly believe that this will eventually be proven true. When it will be the concept of 11 dimensions, and so forth that it illustrates leads one to believe that a just and loving God in the universe has to be an infinite source of energy or have access to it.

    Jesus has reffered to God as Light in the bible. Thus my belief is that God, is literally light.

    Second the "Son".

    After much research on the "Mystic Christ" concept and combing this with perviously mentioned scientific knowledge, the Christ Energy that was incarnated in jesus, is basically in essence the KRAZY glue that glues together the entire universe. It is omnipresent always was, is and will be. it was created by a creative force, but it is the GLUE of the universe that keeps together runnign in perfect balance, you, me, plants, trees, stars, everything is @ ONE with the christ.

    Therefor, when jesus incarnated, it is that energy in the form of a human consciousness that was born, therefor God did not watch himself be born, he created the Glue, and he watched the Glue be born. it was not incest because the Third dood played a part in it.

    Third the "Spirit"

    The teacher, the consoler, the guide of God. In a seperate discussion a Friend of mine Relayer and a freind were discussing what they believed was the holy spirit. I have to agree with them. I believe the holy spirit is a divine spitiual guide that basically can come to us in the form of an Audio Frequency that we can't hear ... like the whistle for dogs, we can't hear it but it drives them NUTS. i believe it may operate the same way. Although we can't hear it... we may feel it.

    Now as for the power and authority this entity has im not sure... but in order for this all to come together obviously it has to power to make a woman have not only psycho-somatic manifestations... but a complelte and total Psycho-Somatic preganancy!! ...

    Now i know our thoughts operate on a certain frequency too... so it's my beliefs that quite possibly, the Holy Spirit may very well be running on our Thought Frequency Level and this is how the Psycho-somatic preganacy may have occured. The spirit took hold of her and she KNEW she was pregant. not thought or believed, she KNEW. For more info on this please see the documentary whut the bleep do we know... it explains how your thoughts control your brain chemistry hormones the lot... therefor, if the spirit overided her thoughts and eleminated ALL doubt for even a micron of a waking second and for that fraction of time she KNEW beyond anything that she was pregant... it is nothing for the body to follow along.

    SO that's my spin on the situation... no breaks, no incest, nothing bad... three energies running parralel for all of eternity. past present a future, cause there is no dimension of time beyond the 4th. pure gemoetry goes out the door at the 5th... and the 6th and beyond well... that makes quantun mecanics obsolete so... can't help you there. However we can always ask people who medidate and go through the levels of consciousness... perhaps they can tell you what it may feel like to beyond the 6th...???

    Personally i do have a mystery too though... was Jesus the only human to have the said "Christ Consiousness"!?!?!?
    Does anybody really know what happened at Nicea!? And does anybody know anything on this thread about the Tibet years!?
     
  17. greatest I am

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    What does that crossing and touching the forhead and shoulders mean and saying in the name of the father son and holy spirit mean?

    Regards
    DL
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know. I guess you'd have to ask someone who actually does that crossing touching thing. I don't!
     
  19. Nikalaus

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    AS far as I know it's nothing more then a symobolism which invokes the presence of all 3.

    Its the same as saying GOD BE WITH ME NOW, CHRIST BE WITH ME NOW, SPIRIT BE WITH ME NOW. remember. God doesn't operate on language. He operates on on thought frequencies...

    A symboly or a word.. comes to the same
     
  20. greatest I am

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    Does this mean that you believe that telepathy is real.

    If you do, you are right.

    Regards
    DL
     

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