Anyone have schizophrenia? (curious)

Hate to burst your bubble but I work in a mental health institution.. Its called humor...

If I was being a dick I would play mental games with you.. Im not, I put humor in there because its you who have the mental illness and what are you doing for yourself.. With management and treatment you can cope with your illness ... Without a sence of humor you can only accomplish madness...
If you cant manage your illness on your own then you get professional help..
What I dont get is you were quick to judge me, Believing I could not possable have a mental illness? Im more insane than the Clinically insane crazy ppl I watch all day.. I manage mine better than you do and thats the whole mystery in these mental illnesses. We all have them only some more than others.. How you deal with it is something only you can do... In my opinion its chemical imbalance, once you learn what make you normal and happy id stick with it..
But one thing I do know is this... Alot of you have these mental health issues and you continue to self medicate with anything Including Marijuana, Which just fuck up any treatment your trying.. SO ILL continue to humor you while I humor myself cause thats part of my treatment... LOL...

 

i wasn't quick enough to get online and say eno does know. i have a bone to pick with you, bradley. each person manages their illness in their own way

what works for one may be crap for the next person as for taking drugs, as well as meds seems to be going well. no crazies for 3 years please don't be so black and white about issues that effect people in different ways

 

Then why dont you get involved in health care.. And help some ppl... Even if your a psyc-aid, counselor, social worker... You could even volunteer at a local hospital... Just communicate with someone who is really mentally ill..

And the subject of prisoners being worse... Its a game ppl play to get out of jail.. Many inmate get cited inside the jail as a way to get out of a Write Up/ Infraction.. They act crazy to avoid the RHU restricted housing unit.. Go to a psyc ward in the jail and most do it so they can sleep their time off in the RHU or psyc MHU.. Really thats all they want to do.. A inmate is a inmate who wasnt crazy a while ago... SO they give him some Seirquil// Or another sleep all day medication...
Then usually once the inmate is let out of jail he has a psyc history and is directed to a mental health facility in their area... Usually the inmate dont go.. Or uses it as a means to collect SSI,,

Shall I go On... Dont have to, Its a revolving door.. So the lights on at the jail will be left on.. 24-7....

If you come up with a better system Id love to see it implanted...But thats how it is..

 

I do get treatment and manage. Im doing better than I have in a long time. Sorry I was so quick to judge, but if you are offended by what I said back to you, how can you not understand my being offended by your comment? Anyway, not important. I guess I just know that there are many people who are very insensitive towards people with mental illness, don't understand the nature of things like schizophrenia and OCD, and some people who insist these things don't actually exist. With so much stigma already attached to the whole thing, I dont have as much patience as I should for these kinds of people. I guess you aren't one of them though anyway, so sorry.

You're right, a sense of humor about the whole thing is actually crucial. And I do have one, but its very hard to maintain it all the time. If I could always just laugh at OCD, it would have no power over me. But the nature of the disease makes it incredibly difficult to find humorous when its in full force.

I was simply directing the comment about the prison system to another poster who saw someone close to them with serious schizophrenia become incarcerated, and Im guessing hes not getting the kind of serious help he needs. And he may even be released without recieving this help. In my opinion, we need all around prison reform. There is widespread corruption, virtually no rehabilitation going on, and many mentally ill people who are going untreated. Im sorry, but I am too busy to volunteer my time to every social institution that I feel is in need of help, but If I get the chance thats a good idea. I also haven't invested my time in coming up with a new plan (there is no single solution) but I don't see any reason that should stop me from voicing my disaproval or anything like that.

 

I know all of this, and Im sorry if I came off as thinking in black and white. Its not so much that what he wrote offended me, but I tend to think there might be someone out there who would read that, and once again feel severely misunderstood. Like I said, I agree that a sense of humor is key, but expecting someone to have one about their illness at all times is not realistic. Sorry If I came off as being rude.

 

it seems to me what western psychology calls 'schizophrenia' the rest of the world calls 'real spirituality'

and 'paranoid schizophrenia' is the product of said person getting a glimpse of enlightenment while surrounded by morons... it is 100% dependent on enviroment (i.e the people around the person)

Really nothing is absurd about discovering that you are actually God. Nothing is absurd about seeing things, patterns projected on walls or whatnot, as Alex Grey said in an interview "just how musicians always see music, painters always SEE paintings". Nothing is absurd about communing with entities (i.e voices in your head). Angels, or rather, multi-dimensional, non-physically manifested entities really do exist and they really do help guide you when needed.

I personally believe the schizophrenia, even depression, all one must do is begin to get a grip on conciously controlling their astral body. It has nothing to do with brain chemistry or chemicals. Synapses in the brain, chemicals in the brain are depedent and are controlled by your energy form. You can completely control your mood, even turn "hallucinations" on and off like a switch by getting a grip on how to control your energy form. (or rather, you learn how to open and close the 3rd eye)

 

thats cool rygoody. People who know better say different.

so you think that paranoid schizophrenics are actually correct in believing that the people who love them most in the world are out to kill them? This is what you're saying?

 

I know the feeling personally. I am at the point where I believe pretty much anything my family says, or most of my friends would be a means to 'get me'. They are firm believers in western psychology and anything they say is inadvertently going to pull me into their subconscious notions of western psychology whether they realize it or not. To them doing 'what is right and good' to me is, 'following a bunch of lies designed to invent errors for profit'. Certainly I wouldn't extrapolate such a feeling to 'they are trying to kill me'. But I can certainly understand how someone who got really caught up in the percieval of subconscious belief systems in the people trying to 'help' and get to a point of running off believing they are trying to greatly harm them.

So essentially yes, I do....
I don't think you realize, when you walk up to a person have an extreme inner crisis and start trying to stick labels on them out of the DSM-IV. You aren't following some 'great prevailing truth' of human existence. But rather your aiding in the promotion of a system of metaphysics designed for the sole purpose of pulling a profit.

 

I used to think like you 10 years ago... The more you understand the Neurological effect of individual receptor sights and the meaning of life you figure it out... Humans do things for pleasure...But we get hooked on pleasure and dont evolve, We will die if we continue to do just what pleasures us... To understand all this shit we need to go to other species and see how they survive... They have a system, are organized,They develope codes of communication.. To become smarter to live and survive...

The human race that you were born into already figured that out... Now you need to figure out how do I become one of those humans that understands this code like the rest... A insect gets ist food source,, Communicates with other to get food,, What brain activity is happenining,, As the food source is consumed what brain activity happen? Down to the molecule... What brain activity is going on? how does this species know this is good..
Doing the same research evolve to a larger species... What brain activity is giving the species pleasure... Pleasure dont have to be from drugs... Since all things in life give us pleasure its how we consume them, use them that gets throwed off... Rant... sorry...
Part of the community in western psycology studies these animal traits to learn more about humans..How can we learn more from them? Be part of that community... If they are studying insect behavior , You should be too... How could you not benifite from learning what they already know about something...that you dont..

 

Its not that I don't think the deductions of western psychology don't demonstrate actual fact or thats it is 'intended' malarchy. I do believe their studies represent truth, within the scope they looked. But that exactly my issue with it, there scope of study is not very large. There scope of study is confined to the physical manifestation of being. They completely negate the function of purely-intangible conscious human will in their deductions, which has FAR more potentialities and modes of functioning than just the deductions of the physical manifestation. They haven't taken into account the fact that, your brain stores thoughts, beliefs and experiences in synapses and chemicals, thus changing thoughts, beliefs and experiences changes synapses and chemicals. They still believe the chemical and synapse comes first, when in reality, it is the exact opposite, the experience, the thought, the belief is the causal catalyst of the brain alteration, not the other way around. All western psychological notion to me seems to be nearly, exactly, backwards.

 

Yeah but Why? It may be the backdoor your looking for. The one you seem to have already found.. IDK..

 

yeah, pot fucked me up too, i think thats where it all started... i used to love pot, smoke it like almost every day, until eventually i started getting paranoid... and i'd just get really quiet.. and my mind is thinking a lot of different things at once.

anyway, there was this once, think after doing E about a year ago, i came home i started getting really paranoid... i thought the government was watching me, . i littererally thought that i was some sort of science experiement, and that the government was doing everything in their power to keep it all a secret, i even thought my friends and family were all in on it too... i got soo paranoid, that i started relating everything to my paranoia.. ev-er-y-thing.... i even thought that they put a hidden camera in my room, and i figured it was in my television (cause it faces my entire room) so for the longest time, i put a sheet over the tv, and told it to fuck off... lol.

 

alot of schizophrenic ppl think that there are cameras arounds,, whats really going on is your seeing into yourself more rapidly.. your looking into yourself.. you think others are watching you but in all of life what makes a difference if someone is watching you unless yoiur doing something morally wrong...

 

well, what about drugs and sex? lol
drugs are illegal.. sex is personal.. can't have people putting cameras in my room..

 

it's circumstantial.
if you take drugs to get fucked up and feel comforable with it, or take them spiritually, you won't be self conscious about it. same with sex, if you know you do it to enjoy it simply because it's a naturally occuring phenomona. the only time one should feel bad is if they're abusing either of those.
moral applies to the individual, not what government or media deem's an act.

 

I have diagnosed myself paranoid schizophrenic because of my paranoid delusions. I was taking it out on other people and really believing what was going on in my head, that all my friends were out to get me, they were going to expose me and I don't even have nothing to hide, separating myself from the world because I felt they were all talking about me behind my back and that no one really loved me. To be honest, psychedelics made it worse. When I was on a full blown trip, I would be completely convinced of my delusions, even when I was being told they weren't real, but I believed it anyway and was not fun to be around. I started to believe them when I was sober. I have been taking my own medicine, precursors to dopamine like phenalalamine, (spelling?) and have taken a break from mind altering substances.

 

Actually, the 'dopamine theory' of schizophrenia is just that - a theory. Who is to tell YOU or I what 'reality' is etc.?

 

There are NO good medications out there, ALL antipsychotics cause extrapyramidal symptoms such as tardive dyskinesia and tardive akathisia (psychomotor restlessness.)

Antidepressants also cause extrapyramidal symptoms ... not many people seem to realise this, and new cases of tardive dyskinesia and tardive akathisia are coming to light, appearing in patients (victims) who've been on SSRIs.

Please see the WeMove Tardive Dyskinesia/Dystonia forum for experience reports. Very sad reading :

http://www.wemove.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/forum/18.html

 

^yes meds have side effects i would rather have a few side effects and live a fairly normal life. are you on any of these drugs?, so you understand what being on or off these drugs


most drugs have side effects, to put this in perpective, i take drugs to keep me alive for a physical health problem. these drugs are slowly killing me and will kill me sooner than later. yet these drugs have helped me have an extra ten years filled with many terrific experiences

with meds, you have to weigh out the pros and cons this is a personal decsion

 

There are side effects to some drugs that aren't serious. Opioids cause constipation, for example - this can be treated with laxatives when the patient is taking the drug, and goes away completely when/if they stop taking it. OTOH, the side effects caused by antipsychotics are HORRENDOUS involuntary movements & inner restlessness that are incurable and permanent. So these drugs in particular are poison. Would you rather hear voices, or your tongue, jaw, eyelids, lips, hands - and all of your body as the disease progresses - move by themselves for the rest of your life? If I was in such a state I can't see myself not killing myself. If anyone is depressed please don't click the link I've posted, it's heartbreaking believe me.