Gay at birth?

Ugh. I'm so tired of this debate.

Yes, I think people are gay/lesbians/homosexuals at birth.

Most families would be terribly hurt if they found out one of their family members was homosexual - and had to live in the hate-filled anti-homosexual world we live in.

And most people - don't want to hurt their family. It's my opinion that if it were a choice, most people would probably choose not to hurt their loved ones and try all that they possible could to be normal and fit in to where they wish to be. But it's not a choice people can actually make - they have a disposition.

It bothers me. I read an magazine article back in the day before Marilyn Manson was popular and before his fellow band mates followed suit with him and went all goth. They asked Manson if he was gay/bi or straight. The guy answered "I haven't decided yet." Which really gets my goat. It's okay if you are confused - but it's not something that you can really decide on like ordering the fish instead of the chicken because you're fickle. Meh.

 

A neo-darwinian would point out such evolutionary synthesis has been observed in other species in nature (within a generation) when subjected to environmental stress

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no you dont decide it, but sometimes you come to discover it thorugh personal refelction and exploration. it was a few years after id been lustinga fter boys before i realized women are damn beautiful too and that im bi, not straight
sometimes thats a great answer to basically tell people its none of their fucking business

personally, i think people are born bi/gay/straight/whatever, but it can take some time to realize it and longer yet to feel comfortable admitting it/acting on it around others

 

I don't think you're born with any sexuality at all. I think sexual preference can change or evolve any time of your life, but come on, nobody knows if they like girls or guys before they've noticed their own sexuality. I was strictly into guys until I was about 14, and I just recently realized that my extreme desire to be accepted by this girl who was in my choir class was ultimately a crush. I think I'm completely 100% normal, I look at people for who they are, not what's in their pants. I'm not bisexual, I'm just me.

 

i don't think anyone's seriously saying that you can choose your sexual orientation... well some people may say that, but no one takes them seriously.

anyway, the debate is on the nature/nurture argument. nature obviously means that you are born with it, but nurture doesn't mean that you choose it. it just means that it was caused by one or more events during life. saying it's a choice is like saying a war veteran chooses to have PTSD.

 

interesting... do you happen to know any examples offhand?

 

In some fishes, males may turn into females in response to environmental cues to maintain optimal sex ratios in the population.

 

I think people are essentially born with a homosexual disposition. It's a disposition that can lead to homosexual tendencies, and I think it can be learned or rather altered because of a certain amount of exposure and influence over a person's sexual interests. That covers the nature-nurture debate for me.

 

Some people are born gay, obviously

 

To each there own but being gay is one thing i dont think ill ever understand. A friend of mine i knew since 1st grade up tell he graduated was gay from day one. I remember being in 4th grade before i really knew what homosexuality is. Something about him was different. Yea he is gay, its cool, he is a good person. From the start that i can remember somethin about him was always different. My first gay friend. ^^

 

There are frogs and snails that can do that too...worms just cover everything by being both sexes...

 

sure, a lot of people are born with harmonal balances that incline them that way. not everyone that is chooses to bacome gay and not everyone that practicis same gender sex was.

what i feel presonally is that it really doesn't matter what anyone does or does not go to bed with at all, other then i think there are too many humans entirely anyway so anything that helps reduce the birth rate in a world as overpopulated as ours currently is, is a good thing that ought to be encouraged and rewarded.

even though i don't find same sex intimacy appealing to my own taste personally.

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When we are born we are a blank canvas... we have all the posibility of becoming any kind of person.

Social conditioning.. and influence as we grow up effects the way we feel about sex.. and who we are atracted to.

No one is born gay or straight.. infact sexuality isn't a fixed thing... it is simply a descriptive term to describe the general sexual actions of a person.

We are simply atracted to different things.. there is nothing different about a gay persons brain.. they just prefer the same sex... much like someone prefers beer over cider.

We don't have terms to describe people who choose beer over cider do we? So why assume that there is any big difference in people of different seuxality? All it is, if preferance.... prtty simple.

 

I really doubt it is simple as that, even before the moment a child is conceived there are already risk probabilities from developing genetically inherited diseases and disabilities including various types mental illness...As for sexual preference I don't really care about someones sexual preference, but thinking about it I would say that a lot of Gay people are born with it.

 

But there is nothing in the brain to suggest that we are born with the want to have sex with the opposite sex... how can something in our brains urge us to interact with only the opposite sex? Sexual atraction is far too vague for us to be urged by our brains to only go for one gender from birth... some guys like very curvy women.. some guys like more masculine looking women (distinguished jaw/nose etc)... the point being that our brains can't give us the urge to have sex with a particular gender because there is so much variety within genders... it must just be aquired taste that we get over time as we grow up.

 

Yes it's possible to be born gay. I know several people who came out of the closet later in life, but we all knew they were gay when we were just kids. They are all amazing people, but sadly they are judged for their sexuality.

 

Actually, sexuality is formed in the second half of the second year of life.

 

Everything is in the brain, sexual attractions do not just come out of thin air...
The genes,hormones or the center of sexual behavior in the brain might not have been located yet, but they are there.

 

They were just conditioned into being gay during childhood then.. say.. they hapened to come across a box of barbies rather than a box of action men while at school... or something..

 

I second that. Its all in the brain....