yesterday, a bunch of friends and i took some acid. there ended up being 5 of us, but intially there were 3 people. i ended up taking 5 hits, and my other friends took 4. all was going well, it was a very strong visually enlightning trip, until one of my friends had seem to go off the deep end. anyways my friend, we'll call him bob, well he grabbed a big bag of pot and just kept shaking it in the air and laughing. this seemed normal at the time, but that pot seemed to take over his mind. when my other 2 friends arrived, we started smoking some. and the more we smoked the more bob just wanted to keep smoking. after awhile he was just hitting a bong with no slider and no weed in it. he went on this rant that seem to go on in a circular motion. just kept saying he needed more weed to smoke, cause we were on acid, and nothing matters. bob just kept repeating this in different ways. then he started saying must smoke trees and not break shit cause ill owe people money. his thoughts sounded like that of a two year olds. at one moment he actaully rolled up a nugget of weed, without breaking it up at all, just rolled it, and tryed to smoke it, and then he eats a nugget of weed. he looked completly insane. that moment, in my mind, was the apitamy of a madman. i was getting freaked out so me and my other 2 friends went on a walk to get away. bob and my 1 friend whos house we were at stayed behind. when we got back from our walk we had found out that bob had gone crazy and was trying to destroy shit. we took him on a walk to try to calm him down. the whole walk was just him talking about tripping, smoking, getting into trouble, and nothing mattering. lets go get into trouble, so we can mean nothing and smoke, is basically his train of thought. he said later he didnt even kno we were walking, he thought we were still at the house smoking weed. i guess i shared this with you to point out why some people should not mess with psychedelics. some people just can't see the light, they can only see dark. i was never really close friends with bob, but even so, ill never look at him the same way again.
lol...let the kid be. some people just dont give a fuck and when theyre tripping or even when theyre drunk they just dont give a fuckkkk. sounds like he would be crazy to trip with.
mojo, why do you assume something like that just from what the op said? there are so many different things that could have been flyin thru that dudes mind that could cause him at act that way. From my experiences with trippin with other people, and being with people who are trippin but im not, people can sometimes get pretty emotional and crazy if they cant express what they are thinking/feeling in a way that others can understand. I'm not saying that he didnt dose just to get fucked up, but i think everyone on this forum knows that the mind is a very complicated and fragile thing, expecially on acid.
i guess you kinda had to be there to see how crazy he was acting. he had no idea what he was doing, no consciousness, it was like a primitive being going ooga booga, me smooooooooke, and then hitting a bong with nothing in it, over and over and over again. and he tried destroying my friends house. another thing is after he later calmed down, he realized what had happend, and then his train of thought for the rest of the night was just repeating how hard had tripped. he had talked about the same three events for the rest of the night. and once again he had no idea that he was doing it. just everything he said that day was so negative, i wish i could remember it all. give you a better example of what im talking about. i know that some people just want to get fucked up and be badass, im not stopping them or dissing them or anything, just not my cup of tea. i just wish the world can see the good in things, this kid just had a really negative view on life.
I wanna trip with Bob!! ahaha jk But seriously. It sounds like he was just having fun. Maybe a little out of control.
ye I had a friend exactly like that. I was McFkd at the time but every time i looked over at him he was having bongs, I reckon he would of had...so many. Saying exactly what you were saying and just talking about weed and you HAVE to smoke weed on acid and counting how much acid he had and talking utter nonsense. I think people like that are desperately trying to hold on. By smoking weed and doing things and talking that crap their occupying their attention from the fact they need to let go. From that point there are two outcomes. In your case they do end up letting go and - go crazy. In the other case and the instance with my friend they dont let go, after while they just lock and up completely pull back - he actually ended up leaving half way through the trip. damm so similar again. Ye they talk nonsense. Like you said they then repeat the same things again and talk about how hard they were tripping etc. Except we didn't really hear most of that till I saw him 3-4 weeks latter - cause he left early. When I saw him he said he had been sick for like 3 weeks and didn't stop tripping for a day or two after it I think. But anyway he just kept saying how hard he was tripping and all the weed actually made him 'miss' the trip.
i think whilst he may have been goin a little nuts, i think that when YOU are tripping yourself, i find you can let your mind take over, and view somthing thats happening as ULTRA over the top. but its just sorta your mind trippin. whilst bob was prob goin nuts, as soon as you get into your own trip loop that is "bobs goin nuts", you see bob goin nuts in a trippin way. i have experienced similar things. there were two trips i did in which i just wanted to get fucked up, which is not like me. it was when i tripped 4 times in a week. and candyflipped and got drunk on one trip. i remember just going crazy and smoking cone after cone and my friends were worried i had gone mad. it was scary for them to watch to see somone soooo out of it, and keep pushing themselves over and over with more and more. but my last trip i had no intent on drinking alchole, infact i had a couple, then gave away the drink i was drinking to my friend. i never went as insane as bob tho, not in that way.
It sounds to me very much like these guys were having very disturbing mindfuck trips, and may not have even been aware of what they were doing or saying. I've had trips before where all I remember are a few small elements of extreme mindfuck, then forgetting most of the rest of the trip, and just having my friends tell me how crazy I was. "must smoke weed, must smoke weed because I'm tripping and nothing matters" sounds like the words of someone who's having an experience that they want to lose all meaning and memory of once it's over, and he probably got his wish. +1 to what Peter said about your own trip making it seem even more weird, btw.
You should keep in mind that you were transmitting all your emotion to him, as he was trying to do with you. You understood his confusion and his need to be grounded by smoking pot. I'd call this "Bob's survival mode" When you became concerned and anxious, Bob no doubt comprehended this. Then you left him in a strange place, contemplating his rejection. He could feel every word you spoke on your walk with your friend discussing how Bob was runing everything. To you novices who usually trip alone, running off to be alone seems reasonable, but there is a better alternative still. Excercise your powers of conversation to discuss your trip, whats preoccuping your mind. Bring it all to the forefront and discuss with those with you. BE 100% HONEST and allow your minds to become as one. If Bob was concerning you, you could have dialogued with him untill he was in your head, then he would have gottten unstuck from his loop. There's always one kid who trips really far out and acts it 100% and after they get their sea legs they are usually the coolest people to party with.
I've had trips before that were like his experience, where everything just feels like the same event repeated and the same thoughts repeat. Unlike Bob, I realized that was what was happening but was powerless to think of anything new. To fix him you should have taken him to a new setting or gotten him a task to accomplish.
did i mention that after awhile he was hitting a bong with nothing in it. no weed in it, just hitting a bong, and we had more weed. he just like went retarded. also i tried talking to him, i tried to tell him that things mattered, but this didn't help much. not to mention i was not the only one that saw him go crazy. the friend who's house we were at started to cry, because bob was going so crazy. in fact my friends whole world came crashing down and he had to make everyone leave for awhile, while he tried to cope with everything that just happened.
Me and a group of friends took 2 clean hits each, and my friend lost reality. I think dehydration had to play a part in it. He kept picking up broken beer bottles From the fire pit and was trying to drink... In the begining when it was starting to occur to me he was freakin, he put my chronic in his mouth unknowingly and spit it out. We thought he wasn't coming back. Like he was repeating in time. We took his to a safe house, and he talked him self asleep. He said he thought he had 2 bodies all night, and can vagely remember somethings. He trips mushrooms fine. And he only done doses once after, and it was cool. Still good friends.
^ If you are safe and someone else isn't, you shouldn't leave them there because you dont want to have to deal with it. You should guide him or at the very least be there while still giving him space.
oh man... reading that in combination with the pic of your signature just gave me such a vivid memory of one thing experience I had on acid.... I remember seeing like a neon buddha almost floating in space, very akin to the guy in your signature. And like the energy this buddha was composed of was the energy of the whole universe and like I was just like a small piece of energy running on his abdomen on the side... and the whole universe was just like a manifestation of the energy of this buddha transformed to appear like the universe because seeing reality as it truly is, the meditating buddha, was just too much then I remember just freaking out and having the most intense fear and panic running through me like it is NOT possible for me to return to society with this knowledge, it is not possible for me to be normal with this knowledge, that I can't remember this... had the whole chain of suicidial thoughts that this was the end, I saw what reality is and now Im gonna be crazy forever, might as well finish it all now and I would do anything to just forget what I saw.... I really don't like that 'ive gone completely mad' aspect of lsd... Although I did come back to normality... I figured out that, there are many forms, shapes and structures that you can make the whole universe transform into. And there is a couple of them that I'm comfortable with. Seeing it all as just buddha, and everything else being an illusion was just... uh, not my style I guess you could say. I now know what it literally means when someone says 'that was the whole world to him'... its like people literally take the energy of the universe and form it into something and see the whole universe that way. Anyways, I could understand what that guy went through if he had an experience he believed he HAD to forget... really I was willing to go to extreme lengths to forget what I saw at the time. Oddly enough though... that yogic pose I saw the neon buddha in is now my like default meditation and contemplation pose.
