I just had my mind fucked

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Michael Savage, Jan 27, 2008.

  1. Michael Savage

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  2. Michael Savage

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    But now the more I think about it...I think it's an instance where mathematically, there IS a conclusive answer.

    But it won't reflect in reality.


    Like, mathematically the answer described in that video is 100% correct, but if you actually conducted trials over time it wouldn't matter at all whether or not you switch.
     
  3. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    definately a mind fuck.... nice
     
  4. bandbeyondescription

    bandbeyondescription Nothertimesforgottenspace

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    i dont kno i kinda want a goat more than a car....yeah my mind has been raped
     
  5. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    I'm still wrapping my mind around it; considered even presenting the problem to my coworkers, but they'd think i was crazy (if they don't already do).
    I suck at math, which doesn't help...
     
  6. Michael Savage

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    At first I thought that it was a flaw in math, so to speak. Like in mathematical terms it's correct, but it would never reflect in reality.

    But they said you could reproduce the results using playing cards...unfortunately I'm too lazy. Anyone wanna try it?

    There was also another example of this problem that seems to show how it IS valid.

    Instead of 3 doors, you have 100. 99 goats, and 1 car.

    You make your selection, then the host opens up 98 doors revealing all goats. All that's left is your initial pick, and one unopened door. In THAT case, switching would certainly give you a higher chance of selecting the car...something like 98 to 1 in favor of getting it instead of 1 out of 100.
     
  7. Donski

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    Anybody know algebra?

    a = b
    a2 = ab
    a2 - b2 = ab - b2
    (a + b)(a - b) = b(a - b)
    (a + b) = b
    b + b = b
    2b = b
    2 = 1

    This is just a mathematical illusion, but with the goat I think you're better off switching.
    Think about it, you have a choice of 3 doors.
    It doesn't matter where you place the car, switch.

    Say the car is behind door #1.
    You pick door #1 - they reveal a goat behind #2 - you switch and lose
    You pick door #2 - they reveal a goat behind #3 - you switch and win
    You pick door #3 - they reveal a goat behind #2 - you switch and win

    Say the car is behind door #2.
    You pick door #1 - they reveal a goat behind #3 - you switch and win
    You pick door #2 - they reveal a goat behind #1 - you switch and lose
    You pick door #3 - they reveal a goat behind #1 - you switch and win

    Say the car is behind door #3.
    You pick door #1 - they reveal a goat behind #2 - you switch and win
    You pick door #2 - they reveal a goat behind #1 - you switch and win
    You pick door #3 - they reveal a goat behind #2 - you switch and lose

    With switching you have 2 chances of winning whereas if you don't switch then you only have 1 chance.
     
  8. Michael Savage

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    Shouldn't that be 2/3, and 1/3 chances respectively? Not 2 and 3...
     
  9. Donski

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    Sorry, I meant to say 2 chances out of three and 1 chance out of three.
     
  10. Xzei

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    wow
    that fucked my mind
     
  11. piper_at_the_gates

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    what was so hard about that?
     
  12. Some call me Jim

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    you know there's something when wrong you post a video about maths in a myspace bulletin at 5am that you found in a forum about drugs
    oh my:birds:


    the child my parents have raised
     
  13. Michael Savage

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    hahaha...dude, I asked everyone I knew that was online about this when I first heard about it.
     
  14. Michael Savage

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    Is the concept of mathematics effecting reality? Or is it the other way around? Or neither?
     

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