Satan judges God more evil than himself for using a genocidal flood. Is he right?

With respect. Not a crok but it just shows your age.

First, a God has no need for a hell because all His souls are destined for Heaven.
A kind and loving God would not lose any of His children, if I can put it that way.

Secondly, to have Jesus or anyone else impose himself between you and God would not be tolerated by God. He wants a direct line to all of us.

We are all responsible for what we are and do. To have Jesus carry our cross would be immoral.

We learn from our mistakes.

Regards
DL

 

What a pile.

How do you know that hell is our common grave?

You indicate that Satan started this mess. When did He get the power to foul up God's perfect systems. When did God lose control and have His perfect systems change from His powerful perfection to some other state.

God, a loser. Say it isn't so.

Regards
DL

 

Do you always answer without thinking or do you just not think at all?

How do I know that hell is our common grave? It's from the Bible but then you don't believe the Bible do you?

You indicate that Satan started this mess. When did He get the power to foul up God's perfect systems?

Think about it, sorry, I'll think it out for you.

It's not about power; even Satan is not that stupid. If Satan had said to God; "I'm more powerful than you" that could be easily proven, God could have just said; “no you’re not “ then destroyed Satan and then said; “ and there’s your proof”.

But Satan, obviously smarter than you, challenged God on the way he rules. Satan basically said to God; that God had no right to set the standard of what is right and wrong, good and bad. Satan said that everyone should have the right to set that standard for themself. In fact by God setting standards of what was bad, he was withholding good things from mankind, Satan was thus saying that neither he nor mankind needed God for anything. These are things that need a little more proving. In fact if God was to destroy Satan at that point God would almost be proving Satan’s point.

This brings us to your last point:
When did God lose control and have His perfect systems change from His powerful perfection to some other state?

God has never lost control but to prove whether the charges Satan accused God of are true or not, God has allowed Satan and mankind a certain period of time to try and prove their point. Now take a good look at the last 6000 years of mankind’s history and you tell me who the loser is.

With mankind on the brink of self destruction, I’d say Satan is the loser!

 

Satan is whatever God wants him to be.

if genocide is God's way then Satan has a large point to make. his point is that genocide is too evil for him to use.

Not too evil for God to use though. God is the greatest sinner posible if the flood is real. That's why it is not.

If you believe in it then your God must accept the label.

Regards
DL

 

Um, thanks?

You can put it that way, but I still say that's an opinion. One that I disagree with. With respect of course.

You say it like I made him do it. I didn't, but I'm sure grateful he did. I'm certainly not going to reject him because, "Shit man, I don't need YOU to answer fer ME!" Think what you want about its morality. I guess there's no way for everyone to agree on something like that. Morality is highly relative.
Also, I do think we are responsible for our actions. I'm not saying there are no consequences. I'm just saying they're not all as bad as hell...

 

Satan SAYS genocide is too evil. I'm wondering why you take the word of someone who is also known as "the prince of lies" so seriously. Even if it is all propaganda and Satan is just some tragic symbol or whatever you're trying to paint him as, the fact remains that he is in charge of hell. If he's such a swell guy, why doesn't he make it a cooler place to hang out? What makes you think a mortal death here is so much larger a crime than eternity being tortured?

The reason that it is a sin to kill is that we didn't give each other life. God gave it to us. It's a gift and you don't destroy your own gift from God or someone else's. It's not our decision who lives or dies. At least it shouldn't be...

 

Isn't that only a specific denomination's belief? I can't remember which now... I didn't think everyone believed that...

 

Beliefs are many and varied and there isn’t any one thing that everyone believes.

That being said, what you probably mean is that most people don’t believe that and you’re probably right. But Jesus said; “broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it”. So just because a belief is widely held or it’s something “everyone” believes doesn’t make it true. You have to read and study the Bible for your self.

Ask yourself does the Bible really teach this or is this something someone wants me to believe the Bible says.

 

who is this satan dude everyone who doesnt matter talks about... boring coversation with ppl who have no soul... Ignore satan... and anyone who speaks of him... like the boogidyman.... its all in your head.... get someone else sick with disinformation.... satan is imaginary......... fix your imagination and dont let others into it....
Steps take foward and sleepwalking back again... Dragged by the force of some inner tide...

We keep moveing forward while these small ones try to tie us to the ground...... Pathetic.......Weak ..... Miserable humans....... .......

Narrow indeed......is this road ..... Now is the time to quit telling the small how to find it.... our hunger is satisfied...

 

I concur
study the bible and remove the veil that blinds you

 

Satan is whatever God wants him to be.
No he's not. Here you go again just making stuff up.

If genocide is God's way then Satan has a large point to make.
God doesn't commit genocide which I've already explained to you in another thread, go look it up and read it this time.

His (Satan’s) point is that genocide is too evil for him to use.
Genocide is not too evil for Satan to use, he is the originator of it and continued its use in Nazi Germany or haven’t you heard about World War II.

Not too evil for God to use though.
Already explained look it up.

God is the greatest sinner possible if the flood is real. That's why it is not.
The flood is real. No, God is not the greatest sinner possible.

Once again instead actually reasoning with some one you’ve fallen back on your Mantra;
ommmm ommmm God commits Genocide ommmm ommmm God commits Genocide ommmm ommmm God commits Genocide
It's almost like you believe if you say it often enough it will make sense and someone will actually believe it.

Well to quote the Grateful Dead;
don’t dominate the rap jack if you’ve got nothing new to say,
please don’t block up the track this train’s got to run today

 

Well to quote the Grateful Dead;
don’t dominate the rap jack if you’ve got nothing new to say,
please don’t block up the track this train’s got to run today
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The new testament^

 

the newest testament

 

Uhm, if the flood is real, then who caused the flood?

If Satan caused the flood, who created Satan?

If Satan was Lucifer, who created Lucifer?

If the flood was caused by free will, who created free will?

If free will caused the flood, and God created free will, then God caused the flood.

If free will cause sin, then God is the greatest sinner, since God created everything including sin and evil.

If God didn't create everything including sin and evil, then he is no god.

If God didn't create Satan, then where did Satan come from, unless God and Satan are one and the same.

Oh, so the Christians say, their God is free of sin and evil, then I suggest you Christian motherfuckers stick your Bible up your stupid ass, and lick it.

 

Uhm, if the flood is real, then who caused the flood?
Obviously, God caused the Flood.

If Satan caused the flood, who created Satan?
Satan caused the flood only indirectly.
The being that became Satan was created by God but just as a person can become a doctor, Satan became Satan by his actions, resisting God, Satan meaning resister and he, being the foremost resister, became Satan with a capital S.

If Satan was Lucifer, who created Lucifer?
Somewhat redundant.

If the flood was caused by free will, who created free will?
The flood was only indirectly caused by free will.
Obviously, God created free will.

If free will caused the flood, and God created free will, then God caused the flood.
The flood was only indirectly caused by free will.
Yes, God created free will.
Yes, God caused the flood.

If free will cause sin, then God is the greatest sinner, since God created everything including sin and evil.
Free will does not cause sin.
So, No, God is not the greatest sinner.
No, God did not create sin and evil.
If a manufacturer makes a hammer for a good purpose like say driving a nail is the manufacturer responsible for you using it to kill someone? Most people would say, No. Likewise if people use the good things that God created, for a bad purpose is God responsible? Most people would say, No.

If God didn't create everything including sin and evil, then he is no god.
No, God did not create sin and evil, for the reasons stated above.
It really doesn’t matter what you say about what God is or isn’t or what he did or didn’t do, God is God.

If God didn't create Satan, then where did Satan come from, unless God and Satan are one and the same.
No, God and Satan are not one in the same.

Oh, so the Christians say, their God is free of sin and evil, then I suggest you Christian motherfuckers stick your Bible up your stupid ass, and lick it.
So unless you can come up with better reasoning than you already have, I would say that this applies to you rather than Christians.

 

They are not.

As for Jesus, I respect him as a prophet and Rabbi but he is a man, not a hybrid God/Man.

Do not reject his ways but do not expect or want anyone to pay your debts. They are yours. Jesus knows that we are responsible for what we do, the same as you do.

Regards
DL

 

It should not, but to think that God is an Indian giver would be wrong as well.

As to coolong Hell, remember that God is in charge of all things including Satan and Hell. Read Jod to see this reality as Satan jumps through God's hoops.

Regards
DL

 

How wonderful, God caused the Flood.
Do you have fuckin' proof?
Did you talk to him? Or do you fucking talk to yourself, OldMotherFucker?

 

Satan caused the flood indirectly, along with God.

In other words, Satan and God were in cahoots, both causing sin and evil, whether directly or indirectly. It is guilt by association.

Evil is evil, whether it is done directly or indirectly. Therefore, if God allows Satan free rein in this world, God is guilty of condoning Satan and allowing Satan to spread sin and evil to reign in this world.

 

Why create Lucifer at all since God would have known all along that Lucifer would rebel against God? Assuming of course, that your fucking Christian God knows what the fuck he is doing.

Or is this just a case of an OldMotherFuckerBrother who speaks about Christianity, yet doesn't quite know what the fuck he is talking about.