What do you think of Timothy Leary?

He was an individual, and just like any other individual, he had good ideas and bad. Make up your own mind by reading what he wrote and did.

Was he working for the CIA? lol, In general, those who say they worked for the CIA, didn't... That's sorta the idea behind people making that claim, it can never be proved or disproved.

If documents came out that showed support of his story of working for them, some people would claim they were faked, if all the documents were released, and nothing of him was mentioned, they would say they were being hidden.

Personally, from what I know of him, he seemed a very interesting person. Beyond that, I never met him, so I can't say.

 

you obviously didn't get what he was saying...

 

pretty much

 

I have always had more of a soft spot for Ken Kesey than for Tim Leary... something about the Merry Pranksters' lifestyle appeals to me more, but then again, I always had a bitter taste about Leary because of the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.


I need to read up on him, I think.

 

i love the drop out part, ive modelled my whole life around dropping out, and ive done pretyy well for myself

 

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I drank some acid koolaid once. I was about 6 or 7 and didn't know it was acid koolaid just thought it was koolaid. Never really put it together what it was that happened to me till years later, after i'd nearly forgotten the incident. I didn't even understand the concept of recreational drugs. I thought i was sick but felt too good to be sick. It was a wierd deal...at least i had hippies watching over me...as much as they were able while tripping themselves, no doubt.

They felt responsible because they were into the frisbie and didn't think to guard the red stuff from a thirsty kid.

 

robert anton wilson did one hell of a great job at getting leary's ideals "somewhat" accepted. leary did one hell of a fine job at fucking himself over!

 

When I knew Uncle Tim in the very eairly 60s. I was in awe of his aura.. the man was positively magnetic. He seem to float rather then walk into a room. His Light preceeded him as you would feel his presents before he actually arrived. He dressed in white, with a colorfull sash around his slim waist and hurache sandals on his feet. A big wide grin doned his face most all the time, as I recall.

His message was one of peace and unity with the universe of your body mind and soul. A search for truth and GOD. A connection with the otherside, our higher selves was the quest.

The journey through the looking glass, to take a peak on the otherside in a different demention, many dementions and facets of The Experience of Being.. He took us on a Light Ship acros the Universe and open our minds to other possibilities.

Even tho it started as a weapon of mind control, it became something quiet different. Tim saw it, he saw the otherside. He saw the truth and left the box. He wanted to build an army of Light Workers to create a Utopian enviroment with a higher level of consciousness.

It grew and expanded worldwide, his teachings in My Phsychedelic Experience and Phsychedelic Prayer. The ability to get in touch with ones Being, and connecting with your body, mind and spirit becoming whole and full.

The concept was "Right On" but as it will, the Wheel spins both ways and Tim got caught in the game. He became what he despised and lost his way.. he knew too much and it was not time for the telling of truths, as people, most people were not ready to take that step into the unknown. They were not ready to face themselves as human beings, as Tim found out.

The mixture of other durgs and too much power for one man to control, Tim surcame to the wiles of the flesh and his own supreamacy, bc of peaking into the otherside before it was time. Karma for opening the window that should have not been open untill Human consciouness was higher and could acept what was happening in their consciousness.

As far as Tim working against freedom, I will never believe it, as far as intent, he wanted change for the good of all people. I can't see him sitting in prison for so long if he was 'with them' The man I knew and admired was a liberterian and radiated Light from his very being. He was kind and gentle in his manner and spoke softly as he took you through the universe of your body and not lose your way.

The ones that sat in his circle knew the real man, where all lay with our souls naked with a onemindedness that revealeled the true Being inside the Vessle. There was only Light and Truth in The Experience we shared.

Bright Blessings
sh

 

Wow! Thanx! Nice to hear from someone who actually knew him. I think it's less easy to be judgemental of someone you actually know or knew. I spose if i knew Gorge W i might.....well, no, i'd probably be more judgemental...bad example, but anyway...

 

Tim Leary was a genius and revolutionary in my opinion. LSD is my best friend. i think everyone should get to know him :rainbow: i will admit that its not for everyone...alot of people cant handle the pure, the real deal....watching the world as they know it leave them. the last time i tripped right before i left nor-cal, i took 8 hits of the concentrated pure czechleslovakian pin-point. i fried so hard i thought my head was going to explode. i could feel the very vibrations of the earths pulsating. i love meeting people who like to freak out...peel away the layer of all the thank yous pleases goodbyes and comings and goings. get down to it. open doors.:daisy:

as far as being a snitch...thats all here say. and even so it prob. didnt happen like most people made it out to...like most things in life.

..::~peace~::.. doonny

 

Timothy Leary is a hero of mine for sure.
I've read many of his books and alot of what he said rang true to me from a young age..
I'm sure he wasn't perfect.. he probably didn't live up to his own ideals most of the time, but hey, who does?
I admire what he did and what he tried to do.

..and I find it hard to believe he was working with the CIA..

 

Never met the man but always a long time fan and admirer, rediscovering him the last couple of years, always fascinated by his legend, the effects he had on individuals and the counterculture, & the whole High Priest thing.

I think Tim was the Real Deal in those glory days, surely some kinda Alpha and Omega, a psychedelic pioneer, a metaphysical master, a re-evolutionary genius and a great soul. He was an Illuminator and an Initiator who inspired millions.

Yet it also seems he was very mercurial and tricky and he really got torn apart in those shitty Nixon years where prison seems to have turned him inside out. He got caught in the middle of everything and became a pariah. Its clear that many felt he turned traitor on the revolution itself, though I think he simply feared more blood on his hands.

As for the CIA I think he mustve played many unfathomable games with them and their ilk over the years but I just cant imagine he was ever on the payroll.

 

Well said.

 

I really would like to read one of his books. Any recommendations for which one?

 

You've never read anything by him? Even after the Kool-Aided childhood? ( a story I can relate to...). Wowsers.

Id say start w Flashbacks his autobiography and High Priest a series of stories about his early Harvard era trips.

Theres a lot of cool stuff by him and about him online too, including some PDF books here and there. I'll try and dig up what I've seen...

 

"Start Your Own Religion" is a great place to start.
That's the first book of Leary's I read... Very mind-opening.

High Priest, and the Politics of Ecstasy are also pretty good.

Oh and check out the video/audio work titled "How to Operate Your Brain".

 

I'm planning on reading a few of his books. Two friends of mine told me how great he was and really recommended his stuff. Another friend said he was a brainwasher.

I'll see for myself.

 

No one eats acid enough to land themselves in the bin just on Leary's account.

I don't think I can really judge him without having known him. For all the good that the psychedelic experience does for a person, though, it does seem that he had quite a troubled life at times.

At the very least, it appears he was not at all the father he could have been. I can't respect that.

 

I have always wondered, what is the acid experience like for the mind of a younger person?