Roger Waters & Fox-Hunting

Discussion in 'People' started by Flight From Ashiya, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Ocean Bionic

    Ocean Bionic Hero of the People

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    i would much rather go Roger Waters hunting.
     
  2. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    The ROGER is quite a elusive ANIMALE...... I would use DOGS.....
     
  3. Ocean Bionic

    Ocean Bionic Hero of the People

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    i smell a new pinkfloyd concept album!

    the cover might include giant floating ROGERS.
     
  4. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    You better watch out there may be dogs about.........
     
  5. scratcho

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    Native Americans hunted animals to extinction---did damage before the whites got here???Man,you better read some history.Start with Buffalo Bill.
     
  6. scratcho

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    It doesn't matter anyway--by the time my grand kids get to my age,the only place to see wildlife will be in museums or movies..And if I'm not mistaken,Waters is not in Floyd anymore.
     
  7. foxtr0t

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    who cares besides if you dont have any dogs to sniff them out GOODLUCK ever seeing a fox anywhere..
     
  8. SunLion

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    Native Americans hunted animals to extinction---did damage before the whites got here???Man,you better read some history.Start with Buffalo Bill.

    That's a popular myth, but science has put that myth to rest.

    Nearly all large mammals were quickly hunted to extinction quite quickly after the arrival of the Asians- mammoths, mastodons, llamas, peccories, the short faced bear, the giant sloths, saber-toothed cats, the American cheetah, at least one species of bison, the giant beaver (weighed about 200 pounds), horses, the stag moose, the American lion- and a great many others. There were even birds with 16-foot wingspans.

    Note that all of those are truly modern animals that should still be alive in the wild today, and didn't become extinct until very recently. They lived and thrived for hundreds of millennia in the exact same climate conditions that prevail today (regular glaciations broken by long, warm interglacial periods). A lot of people tend to think of them as "ancient" animals just because they're extinct, but they are not even a little bit ancient.

    The ecologic damage done by hunter-gatherers was extreme, and left a permanent scar that you can clearly see today by simply traveling to a park, noting the lack of giant ground sloths and mastodons. They must have been delicious, though.

    But I will agree that Buffalo Bill was an interesting character, and put on quite a show. I watched a PBS program about him a few nights ago. Annie Oakley is also a most interesting person of the time; she participated in his show for a while.
     
  9. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Nah you really do need to read up on it man. Climate change had a huge part in the extinction of large mammals, not just in the Americas but all over the world. Megafauna Extinction.
     
  10. D_MAN

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    Never trust a vegan. Or a Beatle.
     
  11. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    you better run run run run run run... little foxes.... run run run run....run like hell.....
     
  12. SunLion

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    It would be exciting news if the hunting hypothesis is disproven, but it's certainly the prevailing view today, and there aren't many problems with it. After all, the only thing that was different after the most recent glaciation is that humans with stone spearpoints were actively hunting at the time. Everything else was ecologically the same as the earlier interglacial periods, when those very same animals thrived.

    However, the "human-carried disease" hypothesis doesn't fail that test, and so could plausibly be a factor. That would account for the extinctions being correlated to human activity and for the lack of extinction earlier. I'm dubious, though- we know they had the spearpoints, we know they used them, and we know that what they hunted disappeared wherever they went. A relatively recent find widely called "the smoking gun" was said to settle the matter once and for all, but I don't think they've published their findings yet.
     
  13. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    I'm with Paul on this one.
     
  14. floydianvolmes

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    would this even be an issue if it wasn't roger waters doing the hunting... but overpopulation = cruelty to the rest of the exosystem. I don't know if I myself would shoot overpopulated animals (dirty pidgeons yes) but something has to be done. +1 for roger anyways lol.
     
  15. Any Color You Like

    Any Color You Like Senior Member

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    I"m not against hunt if it's for food and things like that, but why the fuck would you hunt foxes!?!
     

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