I feel like(and i include myself when i say this) stoners are all theory and no action. Any good stoner can easily list 20 benefits of marijuana, and 25 different things we could do to help get it legalized. shit, Half of us could write a book with the amount of information we have on Mary Jane's social and scientific benefits. but the most any of us will actually do is talk about our idea's on a PotHead Forum. On the other hand. Everyone else is No theory, all action. The government, and the rest of society has almost zero knowledge on miracles of Ganja, Yet they spend billions of tax dollars and ruin millions of lives trying to eradicate it. Truthfully, i don’t think either side is just. I think we have the right frame of mind, but lack motivation.(All theory, no action) And they are completely ignorant of the truth, but have enough work ethic to do what they say. This video is worth watching if you're into deep thought https://www.youtube.com/v/OtuYWyjk4ZI&rel=1 I'm speeding. Writing is fun.
Waking life, and all of Linklater's films for that matter are amazing. Waking Life, Dazed and Confused, GReat movies.
Just smoke it, who cares if it's ever legal. It's not like I could just magically start again beacuse it's "legal"
One of the biggest problems with the move to legalize is that most people on the pro side seem unwilling to acknowledge any drawbacks. I'm sure that the "anti legalization" folks are aware of benefits but willfully disregard them. It wouldn't matter if the pro pot people were rational about the movement- it would be blocked anyway The so called war on drugs is less about actual facts and more about politics and propaganda. There are some things that marijuana can do as a freely available homeopathic that would render some pharmaceuticals worthless. The United States government represents those who have money and will fight tooth and nail to keep it illegal. Even in states that allow medicinal marijuana, there's conflict with the DEA and feds will still raid medicinal marijuana facilities in blatant breaches of State's rights and the AMA is opposed to reclassifying pot. The war is really about ensuring that we continue to get gouged by pharmaceutical giants and that there are easy pickings for young ambitious prosecutors looking to make a few quick notches in their belts. The drug policy of the United States is just the tip of the iceberg of deep dish injustice served up under the guise or protecting our health and rights. So you see, about all we have is theory.
Been there done that. And it only happened beacuse the stupid kids I was with were spraypainting on wall. Like seriously, I can have dope in my hands anytime of the day while it's still ilegal notihng will change if it's legal. And if they did make it legal the would make it 19+ probably
It would be pretty cool if it was legal though, you would be able to get your hands on any weed that you wanted.. But yeah, it would probally have an age limit of 21 because it is "Mind altering".
A rational person does not live, not do, or do something based on fear. I can pick anything to be afraid of in any category, but all its going to do is further shrink my spheres of consciousness and action. One big reason why stoners aren't more open is because of what you just cited, fear of the law. How much of an activist is one going to be if they let these fears be a consideration? You also need to dissect why exactly you want it legalized. It's already been pointed out that if it's for freedom to smoke, that's there already. I've been smoking since I was 12, been growing for 2 years or so, and I'm not on a single police record anywhere. The reason why is because I never let my fear of that possibility influence my actions whatsoever. When you fear something, you tend to steer your consequences in the direction of the very scenario you fear (case in point: Star wars ep. III: revenge of the sith). If your reason for legalization is more for the non-drug benefits of the plant, textile, fuel, paper, food...like it's been pointed out you have all the big companies against you, which is the same reason nothing good gets done in this country. That's not to say we should not even try; it's just important to know your enemies and it's important to confine your activism to subtle methods...such as befriending nontokers and showing them that weedheads are the same as everyone else, as you alluded to with the comment that mostly what we do is talk to other stoners (but often you still need to convince stoners that they aren't worthy of contempt). If we want to cause change, we need to educate and inspire the grassroots people. When Al Gore realized that thirty years in politics wasn't going to get ppl to take climate change seriously, he helped make a movie, shaped public opinion, and the big co's have to respond. Whether you like al gore or not, he did help change ppl's opinions. They big conglomerates are dependent on regular people, so if you change regular people, the companies have to respond.
My best friend has been in a fucking cage for 38 months, and still has 22 to go. He was un-lucky for getting caught the first time, and he was a fucking idiot for getting caught again. But he's still my best friend, and i love him as much as a brother. As both a stoner, and an sympathetic friend, I think that marijuana prohibition is absolutely ridiculous.
got caught the first time cuz he was unlucky? that's hard to believe. It's easier to blame shit that happens to us on fate or society or other ppl's stupidity, but these are all excuses. The only one in control of my existence is me, despite any law. It's the same reason why chronically communistic countries exert a lot of effort and money on propaganda, even though their commoners are about as lowly, abject, and captive as they come. Those leaders knew that even the meekest of servants have it within them to claim thier own life in a rational way and to rebel; and if everyone did it, they wouldn't stand a chance against such numbers. I didn't mean to wax so obscure, my point's been made. It was not the law that incarcerated your friend, it was his being intimidated by that law, and probably his fear of it. None of us like the MJ laws, but the more we let them bother us, the more they literally will. Overt activism is laudable, but usually ineffective. I would love it if I was wrong.
I never said it wasn't his fault. What he did was his choice, but that still doesn't mean that his incarceration is Just. If i were to walk downtown by myself at night, and as a result i ended up getting mugged, it would 100% my fault. Walking alone downtown would obviously be dangerous, but if i chose to be a dumb-ass and do it anyway, i would be stuck with the consequences. However, just because i accept responsibility for putting my self in harms way doesnt change the fact that the muggers are assholes, and what they did was completly wrong. What i'm saying is, Even though its my friend's fault for being stupid enough to get caught, I still believe the government is in the wrong when they ruin someone life because of a plant.
it's just the word "unlucky" that threw me off. if luck exists at all, it exists as a residue of intentional design. the gov't is indeed wrong, but we were wrong in the first place for not becoming a self-sufficient and informed enough people to not require or allow gov't in the first place (if I were to elaborate it would become irrelevant to the thread so I'll save it for another one...)
Stoners.... we are an interesting bunch aren't we? So many different sides to but a single coin. So lets put our potheads together an' think about this. What if each an' every toker came outta his own head long enough to stand up an' state the facts about marijuana. what if we like the hippies from the 60's formed a political group based around our beliefs? (Hence the yuppies of the late 60's) What could we accomplish, man? Things get done when people take the time an' get the balls to do 'em. So lets take the time, get the balls, an' lets kick some political ass! It's not rocket science. Tho' seems plenty of people think it is.
