UNDRUGGED = Scam anyone?

I believe there is something very fishy going on at undrugged. Number one I have never gave anything except honest posts, and one if the posts supposedly being reviewed by an admin is a good one I made about someone from personal experiece. I have been doing some research, and I believe they are promoting there own scam of some sort there, I wish I had never registered. There is even someone making posts on some of my soruces with the username *DEAGENT*.

What the hell.... anyone looking to go there should be advised to be extremely careful not to believe everything you read, although I do know there is some honest people over there, but I don't think the people running it or honest.

Anyone else with any comments on this? I would like to hear more about this and see what everyone else thinks.

Peace brothers!

 

It seems like a great way to gather information.

 

Also, something to add to this about the site being so fishy.... **it goes down so much** - At least once every day or two, the site goes down at various times of the day. What is up with that?

 

I can't believe you guys would fall for this site.

They just gathered everyone's sources.

Nice move.

 

I was recommended it by a good online buddy that has given me one great source that is domestic. The more I posted there and more I read on forums about it, I realized they had just been using me. :::sigh::: sucks to be a tool! Fuck em!

That is why I started this thread though, A lot of newbies are going there and I want to spread the word.

I am not posting any url's here due to rules, but do a google search for ratethesource.

Now that is a great site, wish I had started there.

 

You've got it backwards my friend. Trust me, I'm not involved in any of this bullshit or part of any "team". Undrugged is a bit sketchy, but its ratethesource that you have to watch out for now. They are being watched, that place isn't safe anymore.


- Jeff if you want to know the only safe place to go now adays, send me a PM. I'll try and help you out.

 

Thanks brother, I sent you a pm.

I know you aren't involved in any "team" , that was not what I meant if it sounded that way.

peace!

 

Gdeadhead is right. Rape The Source is run by a notorious moron sometimes reffered to as toxic. That place is sketchy as hell, I almost joined but I'm glad I didn't. As for undrugged, seems to be relatively safe. DEAGENT is just a nick name. Websites can often have problems. I'm not surprised the guy's website goes down often. There's no advertising so he probably has little funding for the website. Jeff, I mean nothing but respect when I say this but, your just being paranoid. In the wrong direction too, start getting paranoid about rts lol.

 

Yea, I do get too paranoid sometimes LoL... and I have taken deadheads advice about RTS. Will not be going back there and wish had never registered there. At least I only made one post while I was there.

Peace!

*EDIT*

BTW, that post I mentioned earlier is now back up on the forum. Guess it was just a mistake.

 

edit: saw that this was already posted in the first undrugged thread

my opinion: there is already too much info on undrugged so if it IS some type of setup its too late to really do anything about it. Keep your valid sources to yourself and trusted individuals.

"Dont stick your finger in the electrical outlet"

little kids are told that time and time again but its for a good reason....

 

rate the source and undruged are both ran by scammers lol dont be fucking around with them...its not good to fuck around......

 

^^Its sad that people go all over net spreading this kind of B.S and really dont know whats what or whos who.

If you really want to know a timeline on what made our scene the way it is Ill write you one. I have been around this online community for years have watched it and learned whos who from personal experience. I always shunned the bullshit because I never bought it. I dont get involved in other peoples battles because when people do we end up with a disastrous scene like we have now. I came here from a simple google and you guys are the biggest noise makers on the web about things none of you know anything about.

RTS is an incarnate of Pharmacyrater a board that came out during the original undrugs prime. The old undruggers didnt like Toxic/RTSAdmin and his boards public stance on drugs fearing it would be the downfall of our community. Well it wasnt, but you know how these things get out of hand. Flame wars start..So Toxic started to come to Undrug and try to destroy it with spam,flaming members, ruining threads and so on. After awhile UD Mods got sick of cleaning up after Toxics seemingly speed fueled tangants left page after page destroyed. The members of UD sweared to make a replacement. One with moderation to fight back at the Toxics of the community,and any of the open warfare types. Im not going to say that Toxic/RTS is the reason for all the communities problems. There are enough lone psychos in this community to start a small City. So undrug got worse and worse until eventually it got taken off the net for an overhaul. The old Undruggers vowed to make another Undrug board. A couple of failures came out with no moderation (vdb-ng) and were hacked quickly for there fruit. People didnt want to use a POS database, but they wanted to use a db so a couple of boards got together(thats right a couple of boards are behind UD'ed) and used there greatest minds in the communiy to put together a secure VDB. A secure VDB with no flaming or BS just vendor reviews. Any psycho babble Scott Obaby drama stay home ya know? No "opreview is the root of all scams" Bullshite or even no "Toxic is really so so and we thinjk hes behind this this and that. No Bullshit.

An unbiased board is all we wanted. And we got it, but beforehand in walks Toxic/RTS and he doesnt have a short memory he remembers who slandered his open board(Ill take some of the blame I was younger) and he attacks it with full momentum. "Who owns it? Im going to expose this scam? And that scam" I have reports so so is a snitch and this guys a pedo..And this guy is behind this and this guy is behind that. Calling people out with precision as if the people hes calling out would have anything to do with him in the first place. He was rejected from our circle. And most circles because of his "people skills" as anyone who has spent 5 minutes reading his posts can see hes a little light in the loafers. Well the people who have been put in his Hall of Shame is ever growing to include your name next if you get in his way. He justs makes shit up. Im sure a few people here have felt his rath unprovoked. And top those suiting up to go to battle with him please take your suit off. People have tried he will spread misinformation about you and yours all over the web.

So break it down its really other people trying to get you to pick sides when you usually only know 10% of the story. We should all stay out of it.I have chosen to stay out of it even though im in it from the begining. If your posts on UD are being erased write up a support ticket and ask the admin why. I would. Rethink your posts and think to yourself "were they accusatory in anyway?" did I mention another url?" etc Read the rules if you fallow them you will never be censored. One thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Undrugged is NOT a scam. I know I havent posted here that much and you should take all internet jargon with a grain of salt, but notice im not promoting or slandering either side just giving you the root of all the issues. The truth of where this started. As long as I have been in this community there have always been problems like this. When you cut thru it theres no DEA informants around any of the boards. This is a rumor for 5 years now. Noone ever gets busted? Just dont buy the hype.

If anyone has any real questions about Undrugged,RTS,RC.org, opreview etc and wants a clear answer void of accusation feel free and I will answer to the best of my ability.. I guess the main reason for this post is we need to break the ice and keep people informed on all the issues in our community without the biased. I have tried my best.

 

^^Its sad that people go all over net spreading this kind of B.S and really dont know whats what or whos who.

If you really want to know a timeline on what made our scene the way it is Ill write you one. I have been around this online community for years have watched it and learned whos who from personal experience. I always shunned the bullshit because I never bought it. I dont get involved in other peoples battles because when people do we end up with a disastrous scene like we have now. I came here from a simple google and you guys are the biggest noise makers on the web about things none of you know anything about.

RTS is an incarnate of Pharmacyrater a board that came out during the original undrugs prime. The old undruggers didnt like Toxic/RTSAdmin and his boards public stance on drugs fearing it would be the downfall of our community. Well it wasnt, but you know how these things get out of hand. Flame wars start..So Toxic started to come to Undrug and try to destroy it with spam,flaming members, ruining threads and so on. After awhile UD Mods got sick of cleaning up after Toxics seemingly speed fueled tangants left page after page destroyed. The members of UD sweared to make a replacement. One with moderation to fight back at the Toxics of the community,and any of the open warfare types. Im not going to say that Toxic/RTS is the reason for all the communities problems. There are enough lone psychos in this community to start a small City. So undrug got worse and worse until eventually it got taken off the net for an overhaul. The old Undruggers vowed to make another Undrug board. A couple of failures came out with no moderation (vdb-ng) and were hacked quickly for there fruit. People didnt want to use a POS database, but they wanted to use a db so a couple of boards got together(thats right a couple of boards are behind UD'ed) and used there greatest minds in the communiy to put together a secure VDB. A secure VDB with no flaming or BS just vendor reviews. Any psycho babble Scott Obaby drama stay home ya know? No "opreview is the root of all scams" Bullshite or even no "Toxic is really so so and we thinjk hes behind this this and that. No Bullshit.

An unbiased board is all we wanted. And we got it, but beforehand in walks Toxic/RTS and he doesnt have a short memory he remembers who slandered his open board(Ill take some of the blame I was younger) and he attacks it with full momentum. "Who owns it? Im going to expose this scam? And that scam" I have reports so so is a snitch and this guys a pedo..And this guy is behind this and this guy is behind that. Calling people out with precision as if the people hes calling out would have anything to do with him in the first place. He was rejected from our circle. And most circles because of his "people skills" as anyone who has spent 5 minutes reading his posts can see hes a little light in the loafers. Well the people who have been put in his Hall of Shame is ever growing to include your name next if you get in his way. He justs makes shit up. Im sure a few people here have felt his rath unprovoked. And top those suiting up to go to battle with him please take your suit off. People have tried he will spread misinformation about you and yours all over the web.

So break it down its really other people trying to get you to pick sides when you usually only know 10% of the story. We should all stay out of it.I have chosen to stay out of it even though im in it from the begining. If your posts on UD are being erased write up a support ticket and ask the admin why. I would. Rethink your posts and think to yourself "were they accusatory in anyway?" did I mention another url?" etc Read the rules if you fallow them you will never be censored. One thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Undrugged is NOT a scam. I know I havent posted here that much and you should take all internet jargon with a grain of salt, but notice im not promoting or slandering either side just giving you the root of all the issues. The truth of where this started. As long as I have been in this community there have always been problems like this. When you cut thru it theres no DEA informants around any of the boards. This is a rumor for 5 years now. Noone ever gets busted? Just dont buy the hype.

If anyone has any real questions about Undrugged,RTS,RC.org, opreview etc and wants a clear answer void of accusation feel free and I will answer to the best of my ability.. I guess the main reason for this post is we need to break the ice and keep people informed on all the issues in our community without the biased. I have tried my best.

 

Just curious what your stance is on rc.org

I know the Informant/DEA stuff sounds like bull, most probably is. A reverse email search on the email that owns pharmacyrater.org returns this

http://www.domaintools.com/registrant-search/?r=eVlLLHkoIXZfjEdcsUi0PmCvxP2PWkVHsJFRkIQbIEg=

google the first domain in that list. You can see toxic is not above scamming people.

 

It's too bad you don't have enough posts for pms, I'd like to hear your position. If you get this after you hit 20, hit me up

 

I dont believe his BS for many many reasons, but heres an obvious one.

If scammers are going to scam, then theyre gonna do it ALONE. Even if you started out doing it with other people, either youre gonna screw them or theyre gonna screw you. Two people can MAYBE trust each other not to do that, but no more. And these scams that people pull don't require any more than one person pretending to be ten people.

All those boards are shadesville. At OPR, sometimes when I clicked on a member name to PM them, I got taken to a TOTALLY different member profile. Also, negative posts about TJ vanished more than once. Certain vendors are censored on there, too. Golden vendors. The best ones. The ones that if you knew about them, youd be buying directly from them and skipping over the middlemen that sling on those boards.

Hey does anybody remember the drugforums dot org forum? First board I ever saw that had H and C vendors. Commonplace now, though.
mademang, westend, etc....

 

Most forums will have a higher access level. The best sources are moved there where only a select few can see them. This protects the sources from being flooded with ppl buying 1 or 2 grams.

 

right but there was no tiered system there.


does anyone have an undrugged invite? i order online, so I can add to the community.

sensiherbman at hushmail

 

I have a couple invites. PM for trade.

And you guys are all paranoid tweakers. lol.

 

You guys can believe what you want, but I am certainly no scammer nor am I promoting any site just saying I have an idea of who put it together(they would like to remain anoymous and contrary to popular RTSAdmin's belief it has nothing to do with RCO which is now defunct.) Anyway, when I get a chance to pm anyone who wants to know about the RC scene in the past 5-6 years pm me for unadulterated truth. Like he says dont believe the hype believe someone who has nothing to gain and believes there are good people being led astray on each side and making this scene very hot. There most assuredly is scams out there, but undrugged is a strictly moderated db that allows no spamming. Wheres the scamming? RTSAdmin wants everyone to not trust anyone else. Thats bullshit.. I mean obviously you should watch out for scammers, but theyre not everywhere just a few rogue speed freak junkies or addicts. Its sad this scene used to have an inkling of trust for others till that site came along now everyone is pointing fingers at everyone. Well my take is that its bullshit. There are good guys in both camps. I have met people and made friends from RTS members, but hey who am I but just another anonymous person beghind a monitor. Funny though to those who are in the know just how how wrong some people have it. Its what happens when you mix anabolic steroids and HGH with psychedelics. Wish the scenes would split and all the paranoid roid freaks would take their delusions to BB forums where it belongs. They could point fingers back and forth and call each other DEA informants all day