Compare DMT to salvia

I was wondering what the effects of DMT are like compared to the effects of salvia.

I have tried salvia before but have not yet tried DMT.

thanks!

 

They'll both take you out of reality and yourself as you know it. Otherwise, we're talking about too many random factors. DMT's more likely to be an agreeable experience, but they're both pretty much at the top of the "WTF" scale.

 

When I smoked salvia it was the most intense altered state of conciousness I have ever entered. It only lasted about 1 minute, but it was pretty bizzare.

One thing I noticed was that I was not aware that I was tripping. I remember actually getting mad because I thought that nothing was happening (while argueing with my car door that I didnt have enough for him to take a hit).

Is DMT like this? Or can you actually tell that things are different while tripping?

 

Very hard to answer that, but I would say DMT is a more consistently visual trip. From others' account, DMT is potentially less disturbing and discomforting, other than that it's all up in the air.
Go to erowid.org and read the trip reports under each substances' respective "experiences" link.

 

apples and oranges.

one excites the visual cortex by binding 5HT2A, the other binds kappa-opioid (psychosis-model) receptors. salvinorin-a may be slightly more dissociative, but DMT is by far more visual and auditory. 'overdose' on either results in amnesia (regarding the experience)

 

yeah, while I was on salvia I was very angry with the high that I was having. I remember I was listenning to a pink floyd song and I thought the salvia was going to take the music away. I kept saying, you can't have my pink floyd. haha

Besides that, I hear things from my friends who have done DMT to not even try and relate it to salvia. its a totally different experience. Most people I know will never do salvia after the first time.

 

I think salvia is somewhere between a psychedelic and a disassociative. Or maybe it's both combined. (As polymer said)

DMT is much more of a pure psychedelic.

What I mean is that salvia has a quality that seems similar to nitrous or what I'd imaging sniffing glue is like. You kind of feel like you are passing out to a certain extent. The body high and physical sensation is also very strong with salvia.

With DMT, it's like taking 1000 hits of very pure LSD all at once. (But a little different than LSD.) The visuals are much more colorful, intricate, and beautiful than salvia. There is much more of a sense of awe than fear. There is certainly an auditory buzz associated with DMT coming on, and the few times I tried it with music it was very distorted, but once you reach the peak I usually just hear myself breathing if anything at all, in my experience.

I think it's valid to compare them because they are both smoked, come on very quickly, and last a short period of time. But, comparing the effects otherwise may not make much sense.

I may never try salvia again, even though I have some, but I hope to try DMT again.

 

The dissociation is usually what bothers many about salvia and why DMT can make for a more immediately gratifying experience. Not that DMT doesn't have the potential to scare the hell out of a person.
Like you say, Apples and Oranges.
What they have in common is they're both a quick trip, and both a very, very deep and thought-provoking trip when you get a dosage to hit you right.
Salvia an easier trip to come by, DMT's an easier one to deal with.

 

I've never thought of either as thought-provoking, much less so in salvia's case. they're just too short and bewildering, unless we're talking oral route in either case (hoasca with DMT, chewing quid with salvia. and I'm not sure I'd say either is easy to deal with at full strength. that would be lsd.

 

to me the difference is VERY big. Salvia makes me feel like a complete idiot. It also makes me scared. DMT is a thing of magic for me. A quick view into eternity.

 

So Salvia tells you the truth, DMT whisks you away from it.

JK

btw good assessment by peacegrow.

 

i do not see ANY truth with salvia. In fact, I don't see anything at all...To me it feels like a very strong dissacotiative.
DMT doesn't whisk me away from the truth. It shows me what life is all about.

 

DMT is enjoyable and Salvia isn't

 

i love salvia, but its definitely not worthwhile if you could just get DMT imo. DMT is incredible, n ive heard 5 meo dmt is even more mind-blowing, however, less OEV

 

DMT and Salvia. Heaven and Hell.
You choose which applies to which.
Both experiences equally awesome and thought-provoking.

 

Even though I have never done DMT, I am going to answer your question from what I know. Salvia does not compare to DMT at all.

 

Well. Something interesting.
DMT and Salvia with enough usage, can make the each's respective trips become a bit similar to the other's.

 

ok, this is my first post on this board, but i had to register to put my 2 cents in on this topic.


i've done salvia about 20-25 times, and always wanted to do dmt, but always am unsure about wether or not i've come across the right grasses.

anyway, from all ive read and heard, salvia and dmt are different routes and differentvantage points of the same realm. And i know that salvia is progressive, the trips becoming more clear and making more sense the more time you spend there. they also get easier to transition into. but its like every single time you think your prepared for it, but after the first couple hits you start remembering what your in store for. theres also physical pain involved with salvia sometimes. sorta like your being ripped in half while needles prick you. is it like this with dmt? also, when coming back to reality after being completely blasted off from salvia, i find it hard to reassimilate back into this reality and feel as if i might be somewhat psychitic for the rest of my life because of what i just experienced, does this happen with dmt? also do things flatten out with dmt? im just curious because i've yet to be able to experience salvias brother dmt.

on a side note, what do you guys think of people who say they get nothing from salvia?

 

They obviously get nothing. More than likely it's not effective due to how it's done, but there's a chance it hasn't clicked with their mind yet.
However, my friend took a big hit of 10x, and she just went blank and looked around a bit, then a few minutes later said she 'still' isn't feeling anything from it. She had a blackout, it hit her too hard for her to have recalled what happened.
Another girl I did it with the first time, she kept saying she wanted to go back to that place and she kept taking hits. She was saying things that implied geometry and change in visual perception, and something very interesting happened which is outside the scope of what I care to post about, but the next morning did not recall tripping on it at all.

So could go either way.
It's VERY powerful stuff when it does work. So there's a slight chance instead of not working one just goes in and comes out losing the moments they were there.

 

I got about 50$ worth of 10x extract, shared it with 2 other friends, I smoked about 5 bowls of it myself, only got a little giggly. No tripping, just a very strange body buzz, intense sweating from my scalp, a strange dizzy feeling, and that's it. Either the stuff was crap quality or there is a significant % of the population who are immune or resistant to it's effects.