does anyone know anybody whos abused E for yEArs?

somebody who has done it for a really long time......
or know any stories about people who've abused it or years...

how'd THEY turn out??

.. i'm just curious..

i heard of stories of people who do nothing but pop E all the time...

my friend told me that his friend used to do E like every weekend... and now he's like a vegetable. lol... :S like.. he's slow, and doesn't wanna do anything... kinda just sits there..... i think kinda like a pothead.. except apparently that guy never smoked weed.

 

my dealer's pretty fucked up, he does E probably 3-5x a week. He's not very smart and his speech is very sloppy.

 

MDMA will seriously wear down on your neurons, man.
Give it a rest.
If you value your consciousness,
I would seriously not abuse this chemical,
or ANY chemical.

Once every couple months won't hurt you that bad.
Once a week will definitely.

Look into the research MAPS has done.

 

nooo, not me, you got it all wrong..... i was just WONDERING what would happen to ecstasy abusers a few years from now..

 

what happens is you over excite your neurons, which wears them down.
it's like popping your fingers a thousand times an hour
wearing down on the cartilage.

psychologically,
I've seen it sort of dull people over long term use.

 

friend used it on average 3 times a week for a year and a half, and he's a vegetable now, he already had depression before he started using and now he doesn't go anywhere or talk to anybody, probably won't even graduate now.

 

I'm going on year number two of using ecstasy. Not every weekend, and I definitely do it in moderation. The last time I rolled was Saturday, (1 pill) but before that I had been a break for 4 months, due to a binge 4 months ago.

 

I used to know someone who did it alot since he deals them. and he hasn't changed at all. still going out to clubs, dancing, socializing, making time for friends. I guess it's different for everyone. He never does it by himself like some people tho. He does it around a group of friends and it's always a good time. If someone becomes a vegatable off E, I'm sorry but something probably was wrong with them in the beginning, you just don't know.

I swear E makes you more social even afterwards. Yeah you'll get depressed or whatever but you just need to not think like that and you'll be cool. some people fall into the trap and some don't. Do what you think makes you happy and not others.

E is for extacy, let it be that and nothing else. damn drugs. I love it but i hate it.

 

I knew someone who ended up w/ Bi-polar disorder. I think they did it for like 3 years tho...

I noticed that I've become a little more space-y then I used to be, but it hasn't been too long for me. And I'm taking an extended break...

 

I know many people. Ive talked to some on bluelight who have eatin them for over 10 years and have exceeded numbers ranging in the thousands. The stories are all the same. Persistent depression, hardcore anxiety, short term momory gaps, etc etc. lethargy, sexual side effects. Overall, E will fuck your day right up if you abuse it.

I only abused it for a year and i saw substantial side effects that are still lingering; that was a couple years ago. All my freinds went through the same stage as me, no one went as nuts as i did though aside from my dealer/good friend. In 9 months he ate over 800. He would go every single day sometimes, eating over 10 at night. He would eat them for breakfast for christ's sake. We've agreed on having the same types of side effects, althought im sure his are FARRR worse than mine seeing as i only ate 150. He also has conitnued to go on mini binges since that 9 month period so im sure he's capped a thousand by this point... which is fucked up to think about because for a while i though the side effects equated to expereincing Hell. I would hate to be him. After stopping for a while i feel alot better and so does he. Memory is the most persisting of all the side effects due to the shortened neuronal axon length. Serotonin doesnt reach the correct receptors anymore because they are short, stunted and skewed. However, im happy now so i think the actual levels of the chemical have balanced

In conlusion, moderation is crucial, once youve become an etard, you never completely recover.

 

knew a girl who had a serius habbit
last i saw her she couldnt dress herself or remember how to tie hert shoes
shed get lost 3 feet from her front door
shed write herself notes remindin herself how to get to the store 4 doors away and shed lose the notes even when pinned to her shirt

i keep tellin ppl e is bad shit, only to be used extremely rarely if at all

 

Thats not true man. You're friend is lucky thats all, but he wont be for long if he continues. They have cut open the brains of former heavy MDMA users and found the damage to the serotonin system was real and just as has been predicted. And trust me there was nothing wrong with me pre-mdma.

I know people who ate them every weekend for a long time who never felt side effects. That doesnt mean the damage isnt there. The human brain and neuronal system are very complex in their internal processes. They dont feel the damage due to the presence of billions of other nuerons that work hard to make up for the damaged ones. When damage has been done to the brain, other parts work on overdrive to compensate.

Did your friend ever eat pills ranging in the double digits in one night, only to continue this pattern for a few more days. It's eating extreme doses in one night and going on 3-4 days runs over long periods of time (months-years), never giving the synapsis full recovery time where the noticable damage takes place. Im not even convinced that eating 2-3 pills a weekend is as bad for you as people think it is. And from the way you describe your friend, it seems that hes that particular type of MDMA user. Its the heavy doses and extreme frequent use that does causes the extreme changes that people notice. Thats what did it for me anyway. Its very prominent, no matter what i do...its always on the forefront of the mind; it's not something easily overlooked

If your friend continues, he will feel side effects. Its not just a subjective opinion. It's been unanimously proven time and time again that MDMA is a neurotoxin in high doses and frequency. Ive seen and heard many accounts of people fuckin themselves up for life from it, and watching them slide done that slope of destruction, and knowing them before and after E abuse solidifies that knowledge. If people fuck themselves up from acid, it was more likely than not the cause of a psychological disorder that they had latent that acid unleased...but thats alot different than MDMA damage. You cant see psychedelic damage with a microscope, its complicated and its not fully understood. MDMA dmage is real, it can be observed and studied scientifically, and due to the actual changes the overuse causes...the side effects people feel can be accurately accounted for and explained.

 

I remeber you're account, so sad man. Im truely sorry. Ive seen people degenerate as well, not quite to that extent. I vibed with it, having been a victim myself and having close friends go through the same thing, but even wrose than i did.

But it's also been proven that If you use it every couple months in realistic doses that it doesn't cause any permanent mental disfiguration. You shouldnt blame E for what happened to your friend. She, herself, is the only one to blame. I never blame ecstasy for any side effects i have because i know it's my fault. Mant people have used it for decades with absolutely no problems. The same can be said for any drug. And the people who've used it for decades with prudence have been transformed into loving, open and empathetic people after using mdma as a catalyst for growth.

MDMA isnt bad shit at all. The way people use it is bad. If used the way Shulgan always tried to tell people how to use it, there wouldnt be ANY problems. You cant deny that its a benifcial drug with all sorts of pro's. But when druggies get their hands on it, they give it a bad name.