open letter to progressive whiners

Discussion in 'Protest' started by 7river, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. 7river

    7river on a distinguished path

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    just thought i'd share this letter from micheal moore. again, not necessarily my opinion...


    Dear Friends,
    Enough of the handwringing! Enough of the doomsaying! Do I have to come there and personally calm you down? Stop with all the defeatism, OK? Bush IS a goner -- IF we all just quit our whining and bellyaching and stop shaking like a bunch of nervous ninnies. Geez, this is embarrassing! The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you ever see them cry, "Oh, it's all over! We are finished! Bush can't win! Waaaaaa!"

    Hell no. It's never over for them until the last ballot is shredded. They are never finished -- they just keeping moving forward like sharks that never sleep, always pushing, pulling, kicking, blocking, lying.

    They are relentless and that is why we secretly admire them -- they just simply never, ever give up. Only 30% of the country calls itself "Republican," yet the Republicans own it all -- the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and the majority of the governorships. How do you think they've been able to pull that off considering they are a minority? It's because they eat you and me and every other liberal for breakfast and then spend the rest of the day wreaking havoc on the planet.

    Look at us -- what a bunch of crybabies. Bush gets a bounce after his convention and you would have thought the Germans had run through Poland again. The Bushies are coming, the Bushies are coming! Yes, they caught Kerry asleep on the Swift Boat thing. Yes, they found the frequency in Dan Rather and ran with it. Suddenly it's like, "THE END IS NEAR! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

    No, it is not. If I hear one more person tell me how lousy a candidate Kerry is and how he can't win... Dammit, of COURSE he's a lousy candidate -- he's a Democrat, for heavens sake! That party is so pathetic, they even lose the elections they win! What were you expecting, Bruce Springsteen heading up the ticket? Bruce would make a helluva president, but guys like him don't run -- and neither do you or I. People like Kerry run.

    Yes, OF COURSE any of us would have run a better, smarter, kick-ass campaign. Of course we would have smacked each and every one of those phony swifty boaty bastards down. But WE are not running for president -- Kerry is. So quit complaining and work with what we have. Oprah just gave 300 women a... Pontiac! Did you see any of them frowning and moaning and screaming, "Oh God, NOT a friggin' Pontiac!" Of course not, they were happy. The Pontiacs all had four wheels, an engine and a gas pedal. You want more than that, well, I can't help you. I had a Pontiac once and it lasted a good year. And it was a VERY good year.

    My friends, it is time for a reality check.

    1. The polls are wrong. They are all over the map like diarrhea. On Friday, one poll had Bush 13 points ahead -- and another poll had them both tied. There are three reasons why the polls are b.s.: One, they are polling "likely voters." "Likely" means those who have consistently voted in the past few elections. So that cuts out young people who are voting for the first time and a ton of non-voters who are definitely going to vote in THIS election. Second, they are not polling people who use their cell phone as their primary phone. Again, that means they are not talking to young people. Finally, most of the polls are weighted with too many Republicans, as pollster John Zogby revealed last week. You are being snookered if you believe any of these polls.
    1. Kerry has brought in the Clinton A-team. Instead of shunning Clinton (as Gore did), Kerry has decided to not make that mistake.
    1. Traveling around the country, as I've been doing, I gotta tell ya, there is a hell of a lot of unrest out there. Much of it is not being captured by the mainstream press. But it is simmering and it is real. Do not let those well-produced Bush rallies of angry white people scare you. Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).
    1. Conventional wisdom says if the election is decided on "9/11" (the fear of terrorism), Bush wins. But if it is decided on the job we are doing in Iraq, then Bush loses. And folks, that "job," you might have noticed, has descended into the third level of a hell we used to call Vietnam. There is no way out. It is a full-blown mess of a quagmire and the body bags will sadly only mount higher. Regardless of what Kerry meant by his original war vote, he ain't the one who sent those kids to their deaths -- and Mr. and Mrs. Middle America knows it. Had Bush bothered to show up when he was in the "service" he might have somewhat of a clue as to how to recognize an immoral war that cannot be "won." All he has delivered to Iraq was that plasticized turkey last Thanksgiving. It is this failure of monumental proportions that is going to cook his goose come this November.
    So, do not despair. All is not over. Far from it. The Bush people need you to believe that it is over. They need you to slump back into your easy chair and feel that sick pain in your gut as you contemplate another four years of George W. Bush. They need you to wish we had a candidate who didn't windsurf and who was just as smart as we were when WE knew Bush was lying about WMD and Saddam planning 9/11. It's like Karl Rove is hypnotizing you -- "Kerry voted for the war...Kerry voted for the war...Kerrrrrryyy vooootted fooooor theeee warrrrrrrrrr..."

    Yes...Yes...Yesssss....He did! HE DID! No sense in fighting now...what I need is sleep...sleeep...sleeeeeeppppp...

    WAKE UP! The majority are with us! More than half of all Americans are pro-choice, want stronger environmental laws, are appalled that assault weapons are back on the street -- and 54% now believe the war is wrong. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM OF ANY OF THIS -- YOU JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY OF HOPE AND A RIDE TO THE POLLS. CAN YOU DO THAT? WILL YOU DO THAT?

    Just for me, please? Buck up. The country is almost back in our hands. Not another negative word until Nov. 3rd! Then you can bitch all you want about how you wish Kerry was still that long-haired kid who once had the courage to stand up for something. Personally, I think that kid is still inside him. Instead of the wailing and gnashing of your teeth, why not hold out a hand to him and help the inner soldier/protester come out and defeat the forces of evil we now so desperately face. Do we have any other choice?

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
    www.michaelmoore.com
    mmflint@aol.com


    There. Feel better now?


     
  2. moorefan25

    moorefan25 Member

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    as you might tell I'm a Michael Moore fan...and he's right. The majority of Americans are progressives, liberals, and/or Democrats; but the right-wing Republican minority is the majority where it counts right now. And as always our biggest weakness is we have a heart, and they (most of them) lead with fear and corporate influence.

    -Jimmy
     
  3. MusicMan19

    MusicMan19 Music Elitist

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    "The Republicans are laughing at us. Do you see them crying "oh we can't win.." "? Well, they know that if they really need to, they can rig the election again. They can do it once, and they can easily find a way to do it again. How about further restraints on election committees? If it weren't for Clayton Roberts, Katherine Harriss and the D.B.T. we'd all be living under "President Al Gore". An all Republican election committee making a huge mistake in the voter disqualification process, in a state governed by Jeb Bush? Coincedence? No, ofcourse not!

    Anyway, I do agree that we need to start voting in larger numbers. Liberals will complain all day about issues important to them, but half will never go into the ballot booth. If you're not going to vote, don't complain.
     
  4. CyberFly

    CyberFly Banned

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    Michael Moore is a leader in our times.

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  5. In The Moment

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  6. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    Yeah, bullshiting spin doctors make awesome leaders.
     
  7. RevoMystic

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    cyberfly, that pic is amazing lol

    voting is just where it starts. No president has been so detested since Nixon...then again Bush is also the first president to take on a revolutionary progressive movement since Nixon...it's no wonder the Orwellian named "patriot act" now exists.

    As for Moore, he's right by criticizing progressives...it's always a good thing to rattle your own cage from time to time...keep us "in line" ;)

    Speaking of criticizing, I have a beef with Mr. Moore himself. I'm somewhat perplexed at his abandoning of 3rd party politics...yeah yeah, I understand the whole "anybody but Bush" thing cuz I feel that way too, but to completely undermine Ralph Nader to give his support to Kerry seems hypocritical in light of what he wrote in Chapter 10 (democrats DOA) in his book Stupid White Men.
     
  8. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    Personally, I don't think Moore is half as zealous as he puts himself out to be. Remember, he has to pay off his mansion, make the payments on his cars, and keep a fridge (or three) full of Ben & Jerry's. He makes A LOT of money off his movies and books, enough to excuse a little (or a lot) acting on his part for the sake of self-promotion.
     
  9. RevoMystic

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    "He makes A LOT of money off his movies and books, enough to excuse a little (or a lot) acting on his part for the sake of self-promotion."

    This was the only part that has any element of truth to it. Everything else has been spouted before...you probably got it from the O'Reilly factor.
     
  10. MaxPower

    MaxPower Kicker Of Asses

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    How so? Can you prove that Michael Moore is not a filthy rich millionaire with a mansion?
     
  11. know1nozme

    know1nozme High Plains Drifter

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    You need to do some simple research to find the answer to that. Look it up. No mansion. He lives in a New York apartment above a Baby Gap store. As for being filthy rich... what is that supposed to prove? He made his money doing what he does (what he is still doing), you claim that that, somehow makes his work suspect. That's like saying that Eric Clapton can't play guitar for shit because he got rich playing guitar.

    People are all pissed off over the speech he made at the Academy Awards ceremony, when he won for Bowling for Columbine, and all I could think is "Isn't that why they gave him the award in the first place?"

    What did you expect Michael Moore to say when he reached the podium? Did you think he'd thank his mom and walk off smiling? Has he EVER done that? NO! He did what he always does. What he loves to do, and what he's fortunate enough to make money doing. If he didn't make money doing it, then he'd still be doing the same thing, only he'd be poor, and it would be a lot harder to get funding for his projects. That's all.
     
  12. MusicMan19

    MusicMan19 Music Elitist

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    haha, yeah, that's like the Christians with the Jews. They love having Christ being dead for their sins, but they hate the Jews for killing him.

    By the way, why is it always the anime fans who act educated, and yet never have the facts? Without fail, without fail...
     
  13. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    Cyberfly, you give great inspiration. I'm on my way to the Republican headquarters now. I need me some signs by god.
     
  14. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    I don't think Michael Moore is the issue... his message is the issue.

    Good luck to all you open minded, kind americans.... i hope you get the govenment you deserve this time.... cos god knows us Brits were duped with ours:(

    With solidarity, respect and love.... Clairexxxx:)

    p.s. Cyberfly....you rock! and Ron too;)
     
  15. Smartie.uk

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    maybe he is spinning.. but then so is everyone with a point to make.. what you gotta remember is if he wasnt spinning left, you'd only be spinning right and then your completely of the road. at least a little bit of spin on both sides keeps you in a straight line.
     
  16. MusicMan19

    MusicMan19 Music Elitist

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    One word for you: OBJECTIVITY.

    Spin doctors are spinning because they have to. Remember that.
     

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