I'm not sure if this has been posted in the past, but I've wondered if someone suffering respiratory failure can ingest any stimulant such as cocaine, meth, ritalin,etc. to avoid complete resp. failure and death?
thats insane..if your goin into respiratory failure the last thing you wanna do is some meth or coke..wtf..dont take more opiates then you can handle..if you go out the only thing bringin you back is narcan..if been brought back twice. if you feel like you gonna pass out though I wouldnt suggest a blast of coke or meth..call the medics lol...be safe damnit! peaz. -J
I know you can use narcan to avoid resp failure, but I was asking if a stimulant was a quick way to help yourself out instead of waiting an eternity for an ambulance to arrive... and def. wasn't looking for some idiotic, rude, "wtf" "that's insane" type of comment. Thanks for nothing.
well its dangerous, but it can work... in the opposite direction as well, if you shoot a snowball but shoot too much H by accident the coke can keep your heart rate up, but once the coke wears off and the H is still there you can still OD, so i guess even though it would be dangerous it could work(smoking a cig would also increase the heart rate somewhat, maybe enough to stay alive before medics come)
last comment but do you think before you say or type something. as your grasping your chest lights goin out your like "gimmie a shot of coke" haha..someone had to make a idiotic statement on this one. Sure dude do whatever makes you feel safe at night. Keep a sack of meth around for when you do od...So do you do drugs with someone all the time? If not whos gonna administer this upper to keep you alive. Sorry to sound like a dick but i'm a realist. I hope the best for you but in the worst case scenario an ambulance is the best decision. Or you can contact the needle exchange in your area. They do have od kits. I should've picked a few up. Be safe. -J
Alright, GA... you must be in a bad mood right now, cause you are just tearing the OP apart. I think you're misunderstanding what he has to say. While once you're out and have OD'd, no amount of drug aside from an opiate blocker like Narcan is going to bring you back. however, lets say you blow a few lines of H and realize, pretty quickly, that "oh shit, this stuff is way purer that I thought, that is probably way too much, this could be a problem". Now, you have a couple choices, first, as GA suggested, you call the medics. Probably the safest/most foolproof choice. Of course, there is the problem of how long it takes for the medics to arrive, the cost of an ambulance/trip to the hospital, etc. So another choice is take a dose of some sort of CNS stimulant and hope it stops your system from becoming so depressed that your lungs shut down. The fact is, the second choice, while in no way recommended medically nor in any way safe, can actually work. There was a night where I miscounted, thinking I'd only eaten 40mg of oxy about an hour previous. however, I'd done a CWE with a bunch of perc 10's and because I'd been so fucked up all day and had such a high tolerance/ massive addiction I didn't really count. The fact was, I'd actually swallowed about 60mg of oxycodone about an hour and a half before, and then I swallowed 30mg. Even though my tolerance probably permitted me around 80mg ever 4-6 hours at that point, taking 90 in 2hrs was too much. I started to notice my pulse was slowing, my breath was coming too slowly, and my chest was really really heavy. Now, since I was alone, I did call me friend and tell him if I didn't call him back every ten minutes for the next hour to call 911. But then I went to my room found my stash of adderall and snorted 20mg. and it brought me back. I was ridiculously fucked up for the next 6hours, the last 3 of which were actually quite amazing, but the point I am trying to make is, if you just pass your body's tolerance for an opiate by a small amount, it is POSSIBLE (while not at all a good idea or foolproof) to speed up your system with a CNS stimulant and actually prevent the respitory depression that would otherwise kill you. Clearly drinking loads of red bull would not be enought. you'd need a significant amount of actual amphetamine/cocaine of some kind to have this work. -V
9/10 when you Od from opiates like Herion or pain killers you won't have time to take any thing else becasue you don't even know it happens. A herion od is not something that usally takes hours to come over you it happens pretty fast sometimes instantly after the injection. To many people believe that old junky wise tail that if someone is oding you can give them a shoot of coke or meth and bring them back from the OD, If anything it will make it way worse. on top of the respiratory failure and your lungs filling up with fluid the patient could now have a heart attack or stroke from the coke or meth you just gave them or took yourself. Another wise tail thats bull shit is a salt shot. I have heard people also say if someone is oding take table salt and inject them with it. Well that does nothing eather. The only thing you can do if you don't have Narcan handy is after you call the medics and are waiting for them you should shake the person and slap the person in the face throw cold ice water on them or throw them in a cold shower. Also take ice and put it on there balls and under there arm pits, I have seen people in ful ods wake up ffrom ice and cold showers befroe it can work. I saved a kid one time before a phish show buy doing this after his friends left him to od in the bronx in a fucking crack house.
sorry i dont mean to sound shitty. im just irritated waiting on my damn script to get here..i hate waitin for the mail...yeah i guess you could try something for the pills like u were sayin..a big blast of dope is different though..for example my cousin drank some beers..which i didnt know..he comes in and asks my brother for a blast of dope..my cousin doesnt even shoot heroin to begin with. so like a dumbass my brother shoots him up with half a dime of smack..shit we were gettin was fentanyl laced anyways so its hella strong. only thing he said was damn the his knees buckled like a boxer hit him..we sat him in the chair and it was lights out. his lips started turnin purple. i called the ambo immediately. by that time i stashed all my dope and threw him in the shower...which is wrong because it only makes the person hard to deal with cuz they're wet (the medics screamed at me and told me water and ice does nothing)...trust me im a big dude and its not easy to drag a 225lb man around slippery...the narcan did bring him back thank god. the next day the same thing happened to my brothers girl..she came back to from the narcan..fentanyl is some stroooong shit. anyways...i guess the thing is is try not to do so much and if u have time let someone know how much youve done if you have a chance. be safe my brothers and sisters. peaz -J
do i need to state the odvios? the 1 drug that is best at keepin u from oding on opiates is..opiates...as in not doing them your askin how to not die from an opiate od the only answer thats foolproof is..dont od on opiates if your worried u might then that should be tellin u its time to try to quite dont ya think?
Best: A strong opiate antagonist Possibly could work: Forskolin. Found in some selective fat burner formulas or alone if you look hard enough on the net. none of these are guarantees to pull you out. Its about timing and dose and if the opiate does its thing to fast its over.
I love how I thought so hard about this question and yet missed this incredibly obvious point. Good work for posting this. Lol.
Something doesn't make any sense here. You said you had a massive addiction and a high tolerance, and you nearly OD'd off 60mg then 2 hours later 30mg?? If you had a massive addiction that wouldn't even give you a buzz! There's no way in h*ll that you would have OD'd from that, unless your severely exaggerating your "addiction" or "tolerance". Bigtime Oxy addicts can take 300-400mg at a time. To be dead honest, if it was someone's FIRST time doing Oxy, I don't think they would OD off that. They would most likely puke and get pretty sick, but I doubt there life would be in danger. And you claimed you had a "massive tolerance." You say your normal tolerance is 80 mg every 4-6 hours, and somehow 60mg following by 30mg 2 hours later made you nearly OD? Either you're a hypochondriac and you were a nowhere near OD'ing or youre just completely making up stores and lying to us. Can anybody else back me up on how incredibly ridiculous this is??
