Cat Stevens

Discussion in 'Music' started by Kilgore Trout, Sep 22, 2004.

  1. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    How did someone so cool become so fucked up in the head?
     
  2. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    the question is: was he ever cool to begin with?
     
  3. rockchef

    rockchef Member

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    not fucked up at all he helps many charities so as usual get facts right
     
  4. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    yes like hamas thats why he was deported from isreal

    you have to understand that its ok to tell lies if that helps jihad, you also have to understand some of the people cat stevens moves with.

    you also need to remember his actions during the rushdie affair,
    and that a man is still in hiding partly because of cat stevens actions.

    people were killed during the rushdie affair but I suppose they dont matter because they wernt ex-pop singers
     
  5. imhip

    imhip Member

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  6. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    He's not fucked up...So, he is a muslim and he said some stupid things like denouncing Rushdie, and giving money to a militant group, when he claims it was a charity...I beleive him on the Rushdie thing, he was just saying that somewhere in the Qu'ran that what Rushdie said was bad and it was a mistake to and that he was new to islam and it was a mistake, I think America is just making a example out of him, I mean they deported a Canadian citizen to syria for the love of god!!!!! :mad: :mad: And about the militan t group thing, there are freakihng militant groups in the US as well, lets deport the members of that!!!!!

    Waht i do find ironic thoug is in "Longer boats" he says he does not want a "god on his lawn" now he started a muslim school and has the " A is for Allah" song...

    But Fuck Bush, let him in!!!
     
  7. rockchef

    rockchef Member

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    true i think the world has going crazy and paranoid. am sure the united states and our own crappy goverment is finding new ways to get at anyone that is a muslim just because a handfull of crazy fucks decide to attack and kill innocent people that does not mean a whole nation or religon is evil get a grip guys we have more dangerous people running our countries and reply to an earlier post some of us here are not teenyboppers mate and the cat stevens thing is not of national importance homelessness is starving children is poverty is old people dying unloved and rotting in old peoples homes are.

    The american goverment seems to think that everything revolves arount it heres something it doesnt all the american goverment is is like the peverbial school bully get out from your own arses and get a life
     
  8. InTheFlesh

    InTheFlesh Member

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    That's not very nice. Cat doesn't deserve that.
     
  9. InTheFlesh

    InTheFlesh Member

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    Fuck Amerika and everything it is. I agree with the main principals of Amerika, but it doesn't follow them.
     
  10. o0child_at_nature0o

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    fill me in, what has he done??i like cat stevens music ever herd about any of this though.what happed???
     
  11. rockchef

    rockchef Member

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    so then why have a go at cat apart from the fact that you cant seem to differenciate between the real evil doers and some one that just so happens to have the same faith doesnt make cat the same as the terrorists man
     
  12. jonny2mad

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    cat stevens is one of the real evil doers him and a man called kalim siddequi of "the muslim parliment" a organisation that basically collected money for terrorists were the main players in the rushdie affair

    he called for rushdies death,and all rushdie did was write a book he didnt like that he thought run down islam

    There seems to be about four threads on this board about this and I suppose it was twenty years ago and some of you may not have been born
    anyway people were killed during the rushdie affair, translators, people working on the book and cat stevens was the highest profile person stiring that up.

    he didnt go to jail , no hes free and then he goes to isreal and gives 10,000s of thousands of dollars to hamas the suicide bombing people.
    he says he didnt do it or didnt know who he was giving the money to but what with his history and the company he keeps I for one dont believe him

    if you people want to feel sorry for someone be sorry for salman rushdie whose been on the run in hiding for more than 20 years, or the people killed
    to hell with yusef islam or cat stevens.
    if you want to listern to his old music fine but the guys gone bad

    I think its sick the way the media are painting this man as a victim without looking at what hes done

    and you can say well its a long time ago we should forgive, but are we in any position to forgive him, we arnt rushdie he didnt screw up our lives
     
  13. rockchef

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    listen mate why are you preaching so much hatred about islam and muslims all over the site to me you seem like you have issues man cat stevens appologised openly about the remarks also he has openly denounced terrorism for many years
     
  14. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    cat stevens would like to have a system where people like rushdie are killed .
    The only reason he would say he was wrong calling for rushdies death is because at present he doesnt live in a islamic state so has to put up with our laws for the time being .

    The isrealis say they caught him giving money to terrorists years after the rushdie affair and I believe them

    basically he got what he wanted during the rushdie affair his apology to me is so much hot air as rushdie still cant live freely

    I dont like islam its not just a religion to the people who follow it, its a political system that they intend at some time in the future imposing on us all

    if you wish to discuss islam or muslims in more detail Im more than happy to do so in the islam forum on philosophy and religion but to do so here would be going off topic
     
  15. rockchef

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    sorry pal but any discusion about islam or any religion that you think is wrong would be pointless all you seem to want is to preach your ideas of what islam and muslims asre in a biggoted way so no this ends here for me.
     
  16. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    you call me biggoted when your defending a man who organised a witchhunt, and then gave money to terrorists
    whose friends certainly gave lots of money to terrorists.

    whats cats stevens views on homosexuals as a muslim,
    womens rights,
    do you defend neo nazis to?

    hes never said that rushdie shouldt be killed only that as hes living in a non-islamic country he wont kill him ....his aim and the aim hes devoted his life too is bringing a system where the government would kill people like rushdie

    your supporting a religous fascist
     
  17. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    Whatever you say. This is Cat Stevens we're talking about. Remember Peace Train? You think he's a terrorist you're fucking crazy.
     
  18. thisismike

    thisismike Overlooked/Uninvited

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    I'm being followed by a field agent - field agent -field agent....
     
  19. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    yes he wrote some nice songs.

    but he is also a Book Burning Son Of A Bitch I may sound bitter over this
    but I used to be a big cat stevens fan.

    I also personally witnessed demonstrations against salman rushdie which he wipped up
    and I have never felt such hatred in my life, I supported salman rushdie then and I still do 20 years later

    what rushdie wrote was a legal work of fiction, and I cant think of another british author in hundreds of years that has had to spend the rest of his life in hiding like him.

    if we were going to let some bunch of religous book burners dictate what we can read in britian what was the point of the second world war.

    we could just as well have rolled over then and let those german book burning bastards burn our books.

    I think the people who are defending cat stevens should take some time and examine what he really wants , what hes actually done

    hes never said that people shouldnt be killed for writing books thats what he wants, all hes said is that as he at present lives in a country that doesnt have sheria law he isnt going to kill rushdie

    he would support people being killed for insulting the prophet in saudi let say now

    its a bit like this really nice friendly nazi , hes got his agenda stuff he wants to happen in the future, books by jews being burned, nuremburg type laws,concentration camps built but at present he cant have them because he isnt powerful enough

    this nazi doesnt answer questions about all the stuff he wants in the future because that would expose his real aims and nature

    so all he talks about is the friendly stuff, sings some songs, and bides his time
     
  20. rockchef

    rockchef Member

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    this post just shows why i will not discuss anything with you pal just a biggot and this post shows just how much cat stevens is a peace loving man as are 99 per cent of muslims islam as a religion is peacefull you do not seem to be able to see the differance between between this and the terrorists who are using a religion for their own end get rid of the blinkers and then you might just be able to see the differance
     

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