Christians reconsile numbers 31 to a loving god of jesus?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Alan McDougall, Mar 26, 2008.

  1. Alan McDougall

    Alan McDougall Member

    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    1
    Numbers Chapture 31?



    I have great difficulty in rationalizing this chapter with a concept of a good loving God as depictured by the lord Jesus Christ. Someone help me please! The bible states that God is the same, yesterday, tomorrow and forever. This does not seem to be the case if one analyses and compares the awful chapter 31 of the book on Numbers, in relation to the loving, forgiving, Father God, that the Lord Jesus presented in the four gospels.


    1) Verse: 2 the Lord said to Moses take vengeance on the Midianites. In direct contrast, Jesus said, forgive those who hate you and despitefully use you. It is easy to love those that love you, but I say love those that hate you. Vengeance is mine said the lord I will recompense. However, here God appears to go against his own word and commands Moses to take vengeance.

    2) Verses: 3- 6 Make war and kill said the lord. This is a direct contradiction to Gods own commandment. Thou shalt not kill. Jesus said if a man strikes you on the one cheek turn and offer him the other and not to violence.
    3) Verses: 6-13 here the armies of Israel go out and destroy, spoil, burn and steal and plunder on Gods command. In addition, they slaughter all the adult males however; this is not sufficient bloodletting slaughter to please Moses or God as we read from verse 14. In contrast, Jesus said he that lives by the sword would die by the sword. The soldiers apparently somewhat kinder and merciful than Moses spared the woman and children much to Mosses disappointment and anger


    4) Verse: 14 Moses was wroth (angry) with the officers. Why? Because they had not slaughtered THE WHOLE LOT, WOMAN, CHILDREN, like they had done to the adult males. So what is sweet kind merciful Moses proposal? Verse: 15, He says now murder all the “little boys”. In ABSOLUTE contrast Jesus said blessed are the little children for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    For goodness sake is this the same merciful loving God depicted by Jesus. No this horrific story does not end yet. Moses goes on saying.” Kill all the woman” except those that have not had sex with a man.

    H How on earth in those remote primitive days were the soldiers to know which woman was a virgin and which were not.

    There was definitely no gynecologist way back in 300O B.C. WERE THERE? So to me they must on Moses command raped all the woman first and then murdered those who were not virgins. Why was it necessary to rape them all? Because a woman’s age does not necessarily indicate whether a woman is a virgin or not.

    5) Now if any learned rational bible scholar can tell me that this is the same father God that is the same yesterday tomorrow and forever, I am all eyes and ears waiting for a logical explanation. You know if one takes out the title God and Moses and replaces them with Hitler and Rudolf Hess, no one would question that it was the work of the evil Hitler regime. Would they?
    6) Alan McDougall 13/7/2007
     
  2. Nikalaus

    Nikalaus Member

    Messages:
    556
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hmmm. I ain't no bible scholar. But here is my logic.

    Your talking about prophets. Okay... they are still men. Maybe chosen but nonetheless men... what happens if they were wrong from time to time? What happens if Moses may have been scared and he justified his fear by whatever way the lord was speaking to him... Making it out to be some predestined plan for God!? Make no mistake about it Jesus was the promised messiah to SAVE us and make us realize that even the men that came before him were not always right either. And here is the Kicker pal not all his followers nor his churches are either. No offence but in my opinion they are the furthest from the truth, and "sold out" a long time ago. I'm assuming once again from logic in at the council of Nicea, Christianity went political and became LAW. I don't know about you but to me the repercussions of a gospel of love becoming state law only opens the door to more anomalies in philosophy, attitude, approach, and logic as the one you are trying to resolve right now. And that personally scares the (*^*&^ outta this camper. :p

    You want the truth just stick to the four gospels man. Live them and be them. All that was before and after is imperfect. Only the Christ is perfect. And don't even get this Heretic started on what he thinks "the Christ" really is.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice