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very cold and harsh,, like a western ny winter old wolf.... i luv the saying of talkin n workin too ,,,


sendin yall much luv, lite n blessings old wolf

 

lol, i have not given up on my dream i am slowly working towards my goal.

I am however giving up on all of you.

 

Sometimes it Is necessary to do it alone ...at least start it that way. And sometimes this is what an individual may need for their own personal Growth.
Nothing like being face to face with Self to take some rough edges off.

Blessing to all

Namaste

 

yeah sweet!

 

I finally found a commune to go to, I'll be headed there on the 7th on january... I already got a bus ticket. I'll post about it once I've arrived there....

 

Oldwolf you always speak the truth

I see a trend on these forums for 18-20 somethings, they get a bee in thier bonnet to get away from society, live free, one with nature, the hippy life, yeah man!!

But really its fantasy land, all talk, no action as usual with this forum,

If you still in school, do a degree or study something usefull for 'community' life- make yourself indespensible! Then go make some cash, free-loading doesnt cut it and really doesnt build your moral fibre, for example with any degree you can come teach in taiwan and if you dont drink and party away the cash, after 2 years you have more than enough to do some travelling and put some towards a commune, plus living in a pollution stink capsule really shows you where this world is heading and makes plans to live 'free an green' so much more clearer!!

back to the commune thing, it all comes down to survival and if you making a life decision, choosing the most optimal location for survival is so much more important than 'cheap' land, so i'm not too sure about Canada, the cold climate seems far too unpredictable to me

Currently i'm in search of my own land to buy and if anybody has the same or similar views to mine I would greatly appreciate any advice they would like to share,

 

Yeah, I am about in the same thoughts as you hyperborean I have looked into a lot of “cheap land” and usually it doesn’t have drinkable or usable water which means you have to burn gas and have a car to haul water. And usually it is in the middle of nowhere so there is no opportunity of out side work. In the colder climates you just need so much to survive chainsaw, snowmachine, snowplow firewood so much winter gear. All of the people I have seen run out and buy cheap land have end up abandoning it because it sucks and is in the middle of a wasteland. The only success I have seen were people who tried to make a life somewhere half way decent.
I would like to live somewhere tropical good land in Hawaii is expensive but so nice!
I have been looking into 3rd world countries over the past few years it is cheap but you need outside income and the poor countries have problems of their own. In the warmer climates you just need so much less to survive.

I have lived in communities before all different types and I am not into working my ass off while people lounge around and the dynamics of community life can be such a pain in the ass the most simplest things can turn in to so much debate and bullshit.
It is hard that probably why not many people do it.

It is kind of funny to read a lot of the “fantasy land” posts of go live free off of the land ect. I was in that headspace once and I went and followed it for years and did many living experiments and learned it is not that simple.

 

is exactly why we disappeared off the net and went to total word of mouth ,, when you invite the world the world comes and so often it is just easier less hassle and much less strassful pluggin away at things on your own.... i have enjoyed seeing your posts sidd... very few can give an actual account of the communes or places like then out there and yes we saw that same thing happening here over the years,,, tis sad that the like minded are often not really all that like minded in many situations..

 

Yeah, at this phase in my life I am enjoying just doing things on my own and quiet evenings with my girlfriend. I miss a lot about living in community but it is nice to have a break and live simple.
Living in commune structures has been fun and rewarding for me but I think I like a more open community structure where people have their own lives with their immediate family and a strong community to participate in. The whole commune thing just seems to get really intense at times people are upset about people not working enough or how community money is being spent, who has the best room ect. Seems like it is too easy for people to get caught up in little things. There are defiantly pros and cons in commune life.
I have a daughter now she doesn’t live with me full time just in the summer but when you have kids you start looking for different things in community and life. If I didn’t have a daughter I would probably live on the Central American coast and fish, grow tomatoes and avocados, but I want to live in an environment that gives my daughter opportunities and is good for her. It is good for me it makes me live a better life and learn more.
Community life is a very complex experiment.

You seem like you found a nice place and you are happy, that is lucky a lot of people have the dream but never make it happen. From a couple of the other posts I have read on here it seems like some of you guys have a little network going. Sounds really cool.

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I just recently made it to Echowood. It is GREAT so far... soon I'll be posting pictures!

 

i'm much more for the close community, sharing of resources rather than commune living, I like my privacy and I like to do my own thing but I think the help of a 'few' others with different talents, perspectives or knowledge is beneficial

Back to the purchasing of land, warm climate definate yes, loads more one can cultivate year round with less energy and then there's THE most important issue.. WATER, our own source of clean water is friggin crucial.

3rd world countries look very inviting but yes they have thier problems, my biggest is social instability, I'm south african and would love to buy land back home, theres amazing places far from people and actually cheap but all depends on how arable you would like it but we are fortunate enough to have loads of indigenous local crops and fruit that love the dry soil, but alas i'm worried about the future, S.A is currently going through very unstable times, farm murders are on the increase plus theres the threat of land reclamation by the indigenous peoples,

I would love to join a community just to gain some experience but they not really in abundance this side of the world, so i'll keep searching

really been good hearing about everyones experiences

 

WE too are more into the do your own thing with a closely knit community around n about us. I personally am not into spending every waking minute with those i live with in a communal home. Having my own time and space is important... WE do miss the communal times that we did have with folks flowing through all the time,Working on some tasks together, having fun, drum circles n campfires etc does make things much more spiritual n fulfilling and the energies flow.... but that is really about all that we do miss because of exactly what sidd mentioned the stupid little things that people begin to bicker about... so n so has this, i dont need to do that because my time is more valuable etc etc... To the point of ridiculous..

to the folks thinking of 3rd world countries or even just other countries,, the rules n regulations of foreigners owning land etc are very different than that of the US ..I would strongly suggest looking into such things long before ever thinking that you can just go n buy land n set up shop... very few places are like that so why plot n plan for something in a place that will never be ... seems to be so much wasted energies there that would better be spent on other things

 

The getting land in my own country is just not a reality for me just too expensive. It was my dream once and I went and talked to real estate people and looked at pieces of land my price range was $20,000 - $40,000. I was hoping to get something by a town with an economy so I could work part of the year and have money to make land payments. There was just nothing livable for that price and anything by an economy was a puny little lot with building codes.
All the counties that had no building codes were very poor and desolate far from anything just cold windy wastelands. Some places in Oregon were cheap but just so far from anything and the rain and climate is just depressing.
I only looked in the western U.S. seems like there is cheap land in the Ozarks in Missouri but it seems poor all the locals call it Misery. I met a couple of people that had some front money and bought land there when I was visiting Eastwind they didn’t seem that happy the called it Misery.
I wouldn’t buy land anywhere until I lived there for a year and anywhere I couldn’t find cheap land I wouldn’t even want to live there a year.
Where I live now in the front range of Colorado is very nice but a flat sunny acre of land is about a million dollars and has building codes, just a little out of my league.
There is a really poor county called Alamosa County that has no building codes and cheap land. A good number of hippies have got land down there but it is poor and cold and desolate it is called San Luis Valley.
I spent some time in Central America a few years back and visited a few communities while I was there. Costa Rica has a good number of communities nice land but all the foreigners have raised the prices. Not sure what ownership laws are but a lot of foreigners own land.
Land in Nicaragua and Honduras was very cheap but politically unstable and the crime rate is high. You could get a lot of land for $1000. U.S. or but you have to devote a lot of energy towards security and if the government collapses your title means nothing.
A 3rd world country is the only land I will be able to afford unless I win the lotto. But I would never take my daughter to a 3rd world country maybe Costa Rica but never the rest of Central America. So it makes not a good option for me at this point.

I think with land it like everything else you get what you pay for.

That is just what I found when I was on my quest looking for “cheap land”
Hopefully some of you guys can do better then I did.
I think I was just not meant to get land and live like that life had other plans for me. Maybe later in my life who knows right now I really like my life and I feel like I am doing just what I should.


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yeah I guess maybe we not all meant for that way of life, but that kinda depresses me a little coz Its everything I think a bout, there needs to be a solution

 

I don't knw you CloudFlower but I sure love the fact that you are following a dream. Enjoy this wonderful life experience to it's fullest, I am very happy for you !!!

 

Thanks Freedomlover

 

this thread is still going? it's been years!
is makihiko even still around?

 

We just updated the website for echowood. www.echowood.org check it out!

 

is the plan still in action, where is makihiko,is the land still for sale,it sounds ideal for getting away from it all, their world that is,

there has never been a good war,or a bad peace....food for thought!!!!!!

 

I have the land, just having a hard time finding open minded people that are willing to form a community based on ideas of renewable energy, green living and peace. I know you are out there somewhere?

I imagine like minds working to find new and better ways to live.