fitna geert wilders

Discussion in 'Islam' started by jonny2mad, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    well the religion of pieces is up to its usually pesky tricks, making death threats against people who are critical of this truely peaceful misunderstood religion .

    liveleak have had to take down fitna because of death threats its up on google video and youtube, although you can be sure there are thousands of death threats flying in that direction as we speak .

    if you have a true religion surely people would believe in it without all the violence , I mean I know people living in saudi now and they have to pretend to be believing muslims , in one case they had to pretend to believe again after saying they had doubts .

    I have a friend who went on haj and muttered under his breath anti islamic statements .

    the whole religion is just so fake its a bit like stalinism or people loving big brother in 1984 all out of fear .

    anyway http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bCrCsTMokTU fitna pretty mild I could have made a far more shocking film maybe a cartoon version of the life of mohammed
     
  2. Phrensied Rabbits

    Phrensied Rabbits Member

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    hey, jonny.

    i found a few parts of this film just downright silly.
    taking verses out of context like that really doesn't make for a compelling film,
    it just offends muslims who would otherwise see the rest of the shit happening
    in this movie and feel like any other person in the world would seeing that.

    Muhammad sallalahu aleihi wasalaam was revealed the Qur'an little by little
    in response to the situations occuring in the life of his community.
    Taking any verse 1- out of the context of the chapter, and 2- without
    knowledge of the events that precipitated its revelation, and therefore
    the extent and limit of its worth, is a poor practice for making a serious
    film with a serious message.

    What this film seems to be trying to do is create an all-out anti-Islamic
    movement by blaming Islam and the Qur'an for the political turmoil that
    the world finds itself in.
    Horrible atrocities have been committed by all sides, and if the best solution
    people can come up with is to make another hate film, I really don't think
    there's much help left for humanity.
     
  3. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    rabbits I would have thought you would have bothered to learn by now that the verses are IN context .
    often times their used by the people commiting the act of terror , their in a direct line from the terror commited by mohammed and his religion of death .
    also I remember advising you to learn something about meccan and medina sura if you look at the quran and how sura were revealed they got gradually more violent and unpeaceful as mohammed (the charles manson of arabia ) gained more followers .

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/face_of_islam.htm

    really I think they should concentrate more on mohammed and early muslims I would have used more haddith and islamic history to show what a cruel saddist mohammed really was cutting arms and legs off people having pregnant women killed , the rapes of captives the buying and selling human beings and how that ties into slavery in the islamic world today such was the mans example .

    one of the strange things is Ive read all sorts of islamic scripture and I cant think of one good thing mohammed ever did , its quite strange talking to muslims who have this idea that he was a good man , do they ever bother to read their scripture ?

    There is the haddith with the sleeping cat and mohammed cuts his cloak so not to disturb the cat this sound like idiocy especially weighed against all the cruel things the guy did to people .
     

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