SMOKE HELP - advice demanded

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by JohnnySniper, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. JohnnySniper

    JohnnySniper Member

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    EXPERT ROLLER here...but finally i am defeated. I have had this problem only 4 or 5 times now but is more annoying than you could ever know, however i hope you do know so that you may help me. This green just wont toke. All it does is go very hard at the source of burning and turn into coal almost...it crumbled....and no matter how hard you breath it in....it will either smoke for 2 or 3 goes and then go out and go hard...so then you try and break it off and the cherry falls out taking good green with it. advice i received so far was to use more tobacco than normal so that it burns which does work for a small amount of time but not well. If you're American you are just going to have to accept that i'm not American and so actually use tobacco. if you have a problem keep it to yourself because i can list a handful of reasons why tobacco enhances a joint right now off the top of my head...1. smoother smoke...2.doesnt go out ever!...3. tastes good (green can taste very earthy as though it is a plant...obviously it is but its weird and too funny tasting to comprehend....4. you dont waste as much weed because the tobacco takes up space in the joint and you save on your weed and lets face it you get high off 15mg of THC so you dont need as much as you all put in....5....it doesnt burn your throat like a mutha fucka....there thats a handful of reasons....PLEASE HELP ME! my personal theory is that the plant has been cultivated too soon as so is too undeveloped to toke properly...i can sort of see small bud formations that didnt get a chance to grow and the green itself is very fluffy to look at and much lighter inside the buds themselves. ANY IDEAS?
     
  2. CloudFlower

    CloudFlower Member

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    stick it into a jar for 'bout a week it'll dry it out nice and good... then toke to your hearts content
     
  3. JohnnySniper

    JohnnySniper Member

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    it is very very dry already!!
     
  4. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    i'm really high right now.
     
  5. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    maybe your rolling too tight. Ive had the problem before so I just put the weed in a bowl and it works like magic. It most likely wasnt that your plant was cultivated too soon.
     
  6. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    well hey, if you're demanding advice I gotta give it.
    like jake said, might be rolling too tight. I do this sometimes, and especially if your weed isn't ground up properly, a big piece of pot could be blocking the doobie.
     
  7. WanderingSoul

    WanderingSoul Free

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    Bingo. ^^
     
  8. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    sounds like 1 of 2 possibilities (and then i will totaly dispute the tobaco crap) 1 its wet, harvested too recently, or 2, its compressed bud that just needs to be broken up better
    or liker someone said rolled too tight

    and now for these tobaco claims
    1. smoother smoke...
    bullshit, actualy tobaco added to weed is a much much harsher smoke
    tobaco is lots more iritating to the throught and lungs and makes deep inhales like you usualy do with weed not only nearly impossible but painfully harsh
    2.doesnt go out ever!...
    chemicals in tobaco are why, but still id dispute that as well, joints shouldnt go out normaly, its the paoers that keep them burning, not the tobaco, tobaco on its own, without the chemical treatments on the tobaco or papers will not stay lit, it will go out in momments withpout constant toking
    if you add the chemicals (mostly toxic carcinogens) that are in most tobacos and cigarette papers then and only then will it continue to burn
    3. tastes good (green can taste very earthy as though it is a plant...obviously it is but its weird and too funny tasting to comprehend...
    my god are you serious? weed especialy good weed is delicios, the taste should never be corrupted with tobaco, the first green hit of good weed is so wonderfuly devine, you have been ruining the best part of smoking by training yopur taste buds to expect that harsh taste of tobaco mixed in, ofcourse weed will not taste right untill you retrain your brain and taste buds you will need to smoke weed straight a few weeks to readjust the sensory scenters to appreciate the devine taste
    when you smell weed being smoked, or just fresh out of the bag, does your mouth water like it should? weed is such a wonderful taste, wether teatten or smoked or drank, its delicios, currupting that taste with anything is a sin
    .4. you dont waste as much weed because the tobacco takes up space in the joint and you save on your weed and lets face it you get high off 15mg of THC so you dont need as much as you all put in..
    false again, you waste more weed adding tobaco, because you dont get a clean burn you dont get the concentration you do straight, you have to smoke more joints to get the same effect, and what happens between tokes? it continues to burn and get wasted in the atmosphere
    joints are wasteful period, no matter what, a nice bowl, thats capped after each hit to prevent waste and relit for each and every hit is most efficient way to smoke, but eatting, or a tincture is most efficient way to get high
    ..5....it doesnt burn your throat like a mutha fucka..
    absolutely wrong, it hurts your throught far far wordse adding tobaco, and your lungs
    i cant handle 1 hit off a joint with tobaco, not 1, hurts too much and can never get enough in my lungs to even get high..i'll smoke a blunt sure as long as only the blunt wrappers used and not any of the tobaco filler, and i preffer not to smoke themcause the tobaco is too harsh
    how can you say its less harsh with tobaco? weed smoke is smooth sweet and delicios, yes u may caugh if u take very deep hits, but if u add the tobaco you cant take deep hits anyway, and if u try the coughing that results is far far worse and can make u pretty neaseause

    all i can say is try breaking the habbit and smoke it straight a few weeks and see for yourseldf if thats not true, your conditioned to smoke that way, thats why you deffend it, but your arguments are all completely false
    especialy when it comes to taste...weed is yummy!!!
     
  9. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    the funny thing is, if the OP hadn't gone off on a tantrum about this whole tobacco thing, no one would've even mentioned it.

    anyways, I smoke tobacco with my weed for a few reasons. my joints burn smoother, it doesn't take as much weed to make one, the nicotine helps get me higher, and old habit is part of it too I guess. I tried mixing it with herbs once, that was allright, the smell of weed was extremely strong though. tobacco definitely doesn't make it taste any better.
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    theres 1 herb that can be mixed with weed and completely hide the smell, its an extremely smooth smoke and actualy helps heal your lungs from the dammaging effects of smoking (and is good for asthma too i think) its mullien (think thats spelled right)
    try that sometime
    oh and tobaco only increases your high if your not a regular tobaco smoker, it just adds that nicotine rush which is pretty short lived and can be unpleasant at times
     
  11. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    I hate tobacco in joints. You cant even inhale the bud cuz of the taste and it hurts your lungs. You can smoke like 4 joints with tobacco and get the same buzz as a regular joint with just bud
     
  12. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    "Demanded"?
     
  13. +-Freedom-+

    +-Freedom-+ Member

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    Try rolling it a little looser so more air can flow through it.
     
  14. DonVito

    DonVito Senior Member

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    im sure glad that soaringeagle explained everything the correct way from the OPs post. i hate tobacco i cant stand smoking cigs and could definatly not smoke it mixed with weed. i love the tase of some nice green fresh bud. it seriously is mouthwateringly delicious. i love the smell of straight up weed being burner unless its some real dirt shwag. tobacco is so discusting its such a shame that it was even exploited like it is. with cigarettes first came out people actually thought the smoke didnt harm you. i could see smoking maybe some fresh tobacco dried and everything right from the plan like marijuana. smoking processes nasty chemical laden tobacco from all the big companies is horrible. i hate that so many people i know smoke its such an outstanding waste of money.
     
  15. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    I love my cigs and I love my pot, but I never mix the two. I love the way weed tastes by itself. I wouldnt want to change that. Soaringeagle made a great point about the green hit, its the best taste in the world.
     
  16. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    best taste in the world is when u light a glass pipe with a magnifying glass..incredibly clean, and you can get a constant green hit by having a pinpoint heat source and just spiral it in from the edges
    but yea ive smoked cigs or beedies way way way too long and im gonna quit this week, tobaco is making my lungs hurt!!!!!
    even though ive smoked tobaco so many years, i would never ever mix it with my weed
    and as far as im concerned if a pipe has ever been used with tobaco in it the pipe is trash..it makes the weed taste gross long long after tobaco was in it
     
  17. DonVito

    DonVito Senior Member

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    agreed..... green hit of some good weed without tobacco FTW!!! :D
     
  18. doope_dude

    doope_dude Member

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    dude.....if u wana get it sorted then stop smoking them.....just hit bongs of fuckets..... r else use the best of all the lung!!!! u should all try it mates..
     
  19. BudBill

    BudBill Dark Helmet

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    How much does a 1/2 Z of "fuckets" go for? :)
     
  20. doope_dude

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    u make em dude!! its a device.....get a coke bottle....like 700ml bottle..burn a lil hole at the bottem. then fill it with water,put on the gauze or tin foil, sprinkle in ur goodness.... then burn and let ur finger off the hole.....it will fill wit smoke....put ur hand on the hole again shake and enjoy!!! so smooth..then it will hit u babes!!!
     

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