Serious Self-Defense

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by Olympic-Bullshitter, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    a warrior of peace is sophisticated . the only way to become is to have a heartfelt intention free of programming . even peace programming is not that great . peace is creative and inspired . rainbow is a way we find it in togetherness . we are strong family ... um ... at least we exercize regularly .
     
  2. Rainbowtoke

    Rainbowtoke Member

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    While I believe in peace I will not just sit and take a beating nor will turn tail and run. I will defend myself. Defending oneself has little to do with being a peaceful person. Living on the road/streets if you dont defend yourself you wind up not "being" anymore. Defending yourself in one way or the other is a fact of life. Its how you choose to do this that remains in question...
     
  3. gobot

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    Hillbilly hippy I think you are suffering from Delusions of grandeur you are sounding like David Koresh or some delusional tyrant.
    You really think if the sky falls everyone will be in trouble but not you because you are on private property?
    If the sky falls what good is private property if the world is in chaos.
    Can you defeat the police now?
    Well if the sky falls I’m sure there will be martial law and the military forces don’t have to give you civil rights or get court warrants for your private property. All of those hummers, 50 caliber machine guns and apache helicopters will roll out of the armories.
    So if you can’t defeat them now you sure as hell aren’t going to in martial law.
    If the Rainbow family started getting armed and prepared for violence the government would call us a “terrorist group” and it would give them an excuse to arrest us all.
    Non-violence is the only way the rainbow family can survive.
    Why devote all of our energy towards violence just to destroy ourselves?
    Like soaring eagle was saying earlier stop hording food and share with your fiends and family and be happy.
    Stop acting like a skizo rat.


     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Very nicely stated and I agree with you!
     
  5. earthling2

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    Dear Hippiehillbilly:
    Those pictures are scary, and it's a jungle out there alright. But try and keep the faith, however, be aware of big brother as well.
    LINDA, I love the family, but we are in for changes, and more.
     
  6. CloudFlower

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  7. MagnanimityMan

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    like a slipknot all those who were holding back hippies will accept us.

    it is earth that is breathing,

    and noone will stand for tyranny on any level like that




    as for the rainbow family of love and light, we will find our freedom almost naturally in the next few gatherings.

    be aware , too, that many new kids are going to come and check out the gatherings.. those who have been to gatherings will just have to make sure fires are safe and police people , when they walk to gates , they are greeted and talked to kindly and informed of our new procedures.


    they will be something like

    only small fires under trees

    trees are ... funny feet tall

    and thats about it.. well....

    rather... talk amungst yall

    all that i want to suggest

    is that we should respect

    even when we are not....


    one minute, sorry for the double post
    but, i wrote a poem the other night..
     
  8. MagnanimityMan

    MagnanimityMan Member

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    to walk in love is to sow good for the world

    by ethan azuz



    understanding UNION might help us along with understanding ourselves,

    this world, so it is said,

    is on a path

    of love.



    leaving

    just that, love,

    is easy when it is what

    we wish to do, it comes naturally, when we know that is what we want.

    wherever we go, living

    deliberately

    in love

    it is that

    that we share

    ultimately , so i believe.

    in the world, yeah sometimes not every way is understood in perfection

    but when we leave more

    and learn more

    along the

    way it all

    really seems like

    it will , or, it should, come

    back around to not only us, but meaningfully the rest of the world too.

    tho sometimes, we work

    we work harder

    and darn

    darn hard

    but who can deny

    that all the effort we give

    does not come back around to US ultimately in the end, for why, why

    do we pray?, why have we?

    why would we??

    do you?

    or do

    you walk around

    and not look up to the sky

    and hope the rain will not fall to your land, to feed all the people, and

    make the field flourish as

    all the seeds do

    grow

    grow

    is that not what

    you have faith in? do you

    not expect to be rewarded for all that it is that you sow, and have sown

    is G-d not good? is not

    Spirit true to you

    and to,

    to me

    ultimately, reality

    will leave us in the way it

    leaves us all. and we will look back wondering did we not stand up

    did we not walk the way

    of our heart, with

    our heads

    looking

    up

    looking up : )
     
  9. Action Lad

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    what about using self defense to simply disarm your enemy.

    Using martial arts, not to kill, but to disable the aggressor's ability to harm you.

    Is this bad?

    Advocating love and peace is good, but you must also survive, if you want that message and intent to become perennial
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    disarming is always good ourselves and agreesssors
     
  11. Rainbowtoke

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    Don't be fools. Pray for the best and prepare for the worst. Never get caught with your pants down...
    I agree with Hippiebilly and Soaringeagle...
     
  12. Action Lad

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    Ya know, i fear that not many of us have caught what OWB wrote.
    He makes the most sense right now, and guess what...He thinks that both soaringeagle and hippiehillbilly are right!

    If we want peace and family to rise to replace the current system, we need to connect the perspectives and intent of both the heart and the urge to survive in the face of anything.
     
  13. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    HO!!
     
  14. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    yaya , in making peace out of a bad scene with an aggressor i can get some lingering bitterness about it later . the feeling is i still want revenge for the wrong . forgiveness too is survival .
     
  15. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    never say never,ever hear of operation garden plot? just a little excerpt,


    http://www.uhuh.com/control/garden.htm

    If any civil disturbance by a resistance group, religious organization, or other persons considered to be non-conformist takes place, under Appendix 3 to Annex B of Plan 55-2 herebygives all Federal forces total power over the situation if local and state authorities cannot put down said dissenters. Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot[size=+2]defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder.[/size]Under section D, a Presidential Executive Order will authorize and direct the Secretary of Defense to use the Armed Forces of the United States to restore order.
    2 TAB A APPENDIX 1 TO ANNEX S USAF CIVIL DISTURBANCE PLAN 55-2 EXHIBIT POR:SGH, JCS Pub 6, Vol 5, AFR 160-5 hereby [size=+2]provides for America's military and the National Guard State Partnership Program to join with United Nations personal in said operations[/size].
     
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  17. ID10T

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    City Hippie and the Country Hippie...........

    Expect the WORST. Anything BETTER is a BLESSING!!!

    City Hippies: Live in Babylon Cities with FAKE Dreads that are disrespectful to the Rastafari and close to the Hand that feeds (spanks and can KILL) you, Complaining that "we're not Free".

    Country Hippie: Aware of the worlds good/bad. In tune with ones self. TRULY fulfilling One's SELF desires with Nature. Free-Spirited!


    PR

    Here's your stinking City man!!!!! And you wonder why the Gov'y'ment wont rebuild NOLA.....ITS SUPPOSSED TO SINK AND BE DESTROYED. Now go move to Southern Cali!

    [​IMG]
     
  18. ID10T

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    WHOA, Nobody Flamed me??????


    Guess everyone Knows the Stories ending of the Country Mouse and the City Mouse Where..............


    THEY BOTH NEEDED EACH OTHER.


    Jeez, Glad I'm here JUST to make you think!

    PR
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry, I missed the signals!
    Okay, Here goes! You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny!

    Peace and Love,
    OWB
     
  20. Musikero

    Musikero Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    That is a noble goal. But:

    If by "disarm" you mean "remove an attacker's weapon from his grasp by either knocking it away or somehow grabbing it and/or breaking his wrist/arm/shoulder in the process", then I say, "Easier said than done."

    Gun disarms will only work if you're close enough to touch your attacker, and even then you have to remember that all he needs to do is move one finger to pull the trigger.

    We occasionally practice knife disarms in our dojo, but any sensible martial artist will tell you that if someone wants to slice you up, you have a better chance of survival if you run away instead of playing "kung-fu master" and trying to disarm him. Besides, chances are you won't even see the knife until it's sticking in your guts.

    Weapons give the wielder an unfair advantage over you, no matter how good a martial artist you are.

    If you must use martial arts, I recommend using it not so much to disarm but to buy you time and opportunity to run away. Forget about disarming. Of course if you do get the chance to disarm then go ahead - if you get the chance. Your top priority is still running away, though.


     

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